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Serra Moz wrote: jb2 wrote:
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Serra Moz wrote: How do they issue licenses for Seine netters, is it a license that remains in the family? Traditional? Or issued on a 99yrs period for example?

Hi Serra Moz

The majority of the rights in the Cape are standard commercial fishing rights. A total allowable effort is decided of a number of operators per area is allocated.

So for example Macassar has one rights holder while Strandfontein to Muizenberg has two.

The applications are the same as all other commercial rights. So they had to apply on the prescribed forms just like I & J or Oceana would have.

One of the restrictions in many sectors including the netfish sector was that new entrants would not be allowed.

So at Naartjie's trek at Strandfontein -  Muizenberg would have been one of the oldest participants. I think that they bought those Chev - Ford bakkies for the trek and they are early 1970's models.

There is a bit of controversy surrounding an interim relief trek at Glencairn that was set up against scientific advice but I don't know enough about it.

Can I ask why are curious about the nature of the rights?

 


Thanks for the reply, no particular reason for my question, I thought it was like a "right" lets say Mr. X and his family started netting 100yrs ago, thus the license stays in the family? So basically should one wish to net, he can then apply through the right channels and might be granted a license? Also, I thought say for example Mr. X and have have operated on Fish Hoek beach for 50yrs, that remains their area operations. Interesting!

Thanks


He Serra Moz

There is a lot of confusion doing the rounds.  The Marine Living Resources Act came into being in 1998 but there were no real allocations in linefish or netfish until about 2003. This meant that there were people operating on exemptions and all kinds of things.

There were also weird kinds of treknet rights that farmers used to have in areas adjoining the sea. They were known as "rantsoenpermitte" to allow the farmer to fish and dry the fish to feed his workers.

There was a also some type of provison from other local authorities but those have fallen by the wayside.

One of the things that people keep missing is that a treknet (in False Bay at least) is a full commercial operation and is no different from any handline boat.

It would help if people would imagine the treknet as a chukkie that happens to operate from the shore.

It is also handy to remember that the public have a strong tradition of disliking treknetting. The earliest complaints go back to the VOC and more focussed complaints are from 1875!


Always good info, I enjoy reading you replies...as far back as 1875! Wow! interesting. Being up in Moz I always wondered what the Inhaca (sandflats) would have been without the netting...bonefish and many others species - gone! Well, sadly in some cases people have to eat.

Refering to the "rantsoenpermitte" still allowed? If so, in which areas?

Again thanks for your info and history lesson, appreciated


Hi

The rantsonepermitte have long since gone but they must have been handy to a farmer to feed his workers.

I remember a fishing book written by a guy from a farming family in the Hamburg district of the Eastern Cape. Every year they would go down to the coast and catch and salt grunter in the lagoons until they had enough to last them for the year.

Van Riebeeck relied heavily on treknetting to help him in the early years. He would have trekked the area that is now where the Cape Town station and Golden Acre mall now stand.

He also ate a shellfish that he called "klipkont". The word was later changed to "klipkous". In the 1650's people used to speak more directly than we do today.

I apologise if I have "highjacked" a thread. I really don't think that South Africans speak in linear threads either. Americans might do it but we don't.

We kind of speak in non linear currents that eddy and flow.

I came out of a kloof in the Boland once asked the farmer whether it was possible to fish the adjoining kloof and the farmer started telling us a story about the kloof nearby and it ran sort of like this.

"I tried to get into the kloof but the bush was too thick not even my dog could get into that bush and this dog was from Oom Flip and Oom Flip's dogs can go anywhere. And they had to be able to go anywhere to chase leopards. Because a leopard can come any time and it is no use to try to set a trap for him but rather wait for the lambing season and then rub your self with duiwelsdrek so that he can't smell you and then go and lie down next to the lamb like the bible says and wait with your dog who has also been rubbed with duiwelsdrek. And duiwelsdrek is just the extract from a type of plant that is like fennel and it is good for clearing up spider bites and the old people used to use it before antibiiotics. Because remember when the Spanish Flue came through our district there were many that were laid low. And at that time my fathers older brother had just started agricultural college in Pretoria.........."

If you want linear go get a ruler (Which of course we called "lineal" but that was at a time when we were worried about "Anglisisme" and if we said ruler our Onnie would......) you get the point

I never found out if their were fish in the adjoining kloof either.