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 Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2015 10:12 am
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Hi everyone, I wish you all also had a great day fishing yesterday.

Please help me with a problem I feel I am having with the Palomar Knot. I feel I might be doing it wrong. It is very simple and I follow all the steps, but for some reason when doing the finishing move, it gets stuck. It is said you must grap and pull back the mainline and well as the loose piece of line. But it does not pull back, it only works when I pull back the main line alone. Is this good enough?

Must you wet the line before pulling it back? I am using braided line with a plastic or something coating.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2015 12:07 pm
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I received 2 Pm's regarding this thread, and both members confirmed they could not manage to post in this thread. I wonder what could be the problem? They did give me great advice via PM though.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2015 02:43 pm
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https://www.facebook.com/lafishblog/videos/1660216587549496/


Barbelman,see if this link opens .;), if not try and google ''Grogs-knots''

Good luck.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2015 03:46 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWiMa1hla0

I just watched how to do a double Palomar knot with braid.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2015 05:55 pm
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Hi guys, I realised it is because of the coated braid I used. When I used uncoated braid to tie the hooks, it slided like it was supposed to.

That brought me to a question.
Is it wrong to use coated braid on hair rigs? Will it make a difference? Will the fish still pick it up just the same a normal uncoated braided rigs?

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 Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2015 06:50 pm
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Barbelman wrote:
Hi guys, I realised it is because of the coated braid I used. When I used uncoated braid to tie the hooks, it slided like it was supposed to.

That brought me to a question.
Is it wrong to use coated braid on hair rigs? Will it make a difference? Will the fish still pick it up just the same a normal uncoated braided rigs?



Barbelman, By ''coated'' do you mean plastic-coated as some of the Specimen Carp rig -coated or do you mean ''coated'' as in for example Power-pro or some of the older Fireline products which seems to have a ''candle-wax''type coating.

Either way,if it the Specimen plastic-coated type braid then I am sure that somebody else should be able to advise you better,but I must mention that I have seen rigs where the last inch or two of plastic-coating are removed to allow for more flexibility in the last section towards the hook..

However if it is the coated type braid as in Power-pro or similar,then you can lightly pinch the section to be knotted between two fingernails and gently ''strip'' the section that you are going to tie the Palomar in. You will notice that the braid immediately becomes more limp and I have read somewhere on a leading Aussie braid site that it does not affect the breaking strain.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2015 07:09 pm
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kitefisher wrote: Barbelman wrote:
Hi guys, I realised it is because of the coated braid I used. When I used uncoated braid to tie the hooks, it slided like it was supposed to.

That brought me to a question.
Is it wrong to use coated braid on hair rigs? Will it make a difference? Will the fish still pick it up just the same a normal uncoated braided rigs?



Barbelman, By ''coated'' do you mean plastic-coated as some of the Specimen Carp rig -coated or do you mean ''coated'' as in for example Power-pro or some of the older Fireline products which seems to have a ''candle-wax''type coating.

Either way,if it the Specimen plastic-coated type braid then I am sure that somebody else should be able to advise you better,but I must mention that I have seen rigs where the last inch or two of plastic-coating are removed to allow for more flexibility in the last section towards the hook..

However if it is the coated type braid as in Power-pro or similar,then you can lightly pinch the section to be knotted between two fingernails and gently ''strip'' the section that you are going to tie the Palomar in. You will notice that the braid immediately becomes more limp and I have read somewhere on a leading Aussie braid site that it does not affect the breaking strain.

I've bought Spiderwire  EZ braid. It feels more like a plastic coating. The braid is for sure stiffer than any other braid I've used before..

I did see now in a fishing shop that hook-link braid are sold both coated and uncoated. So I hope I do not have to re-do all my traces I've built.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2015 12:53 am
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Mana: 
That may not be necessary,perhaps just try the suggestion above regarding the removing of the coating by gently pulling the braid between your nails.With the Spiderwire Eezee you should feel the braid become more limp and soft.


If you perhaps want only the last two inches of your hook-link to ''pop-up' then you could ''soften'' only that section and perhaps add a tiny split-shot or lead-putty at that mark.

Good luck
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