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 Posted: Tue May 24th, 2016 03:37 pm
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 Posted: Tue May 24th, 2016 03:38 pm
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 Posted: Tue May 24th, 2016 03:38 pm
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 Posted: Tue May 24th, 2016 03:39 pm
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 Posted: Wed May 25th, 2016 01:50 pm
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A very interesting fact on this deep fishing is the current out deep.Please Don't be put off by thinking the current is strong all over.If water moves south or north it has to be replaced. So if the current go south some were it has to go north to replace this water.Were these two currents meets the water will actually stand still with only a wind drift.There is two areas off Durban like this off the deep one is strait off Warners 9 km north and 9 km south on a depth of 350 to 450 m.all reef.these areas is were the fish come to bread.No body fish in this area.Its actually unbelievable to think that this happens.But it does.When you go out deep you pass two currents strong ones most people will turn back thinking it will become worse but you have to push trough to calmer waters. My mate told me he had a fad out There and it lasted 3 years with 10 mm rope,that was the give away this area Dont have current the water twills here.So all come together this is why the fish bread here.

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 Posted: Wed May 25th, 2016 02:05 pm
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Only thing you need to realize it is impossible to fish with a KP and rod here .Trust me iv tried you use a 2 kg or more lead to fish here. It took me months to build a reel for this.The Manuel reels were manufactured by Anton from Fish On Lures on special order.The Lingrin Pitmen by Pulsator Lures Rayen willimson and that daiwas was imported. So that is the 3 choices of tackle cheapest is the hand reels.If the demand for the hand reel grow Anton will manufacturer it by injection molding .Mine was made to test and it works very good.And cheap enough to afford.

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 03:32 pm
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Very interesting stuff. Keep em coming. Was that the R100K reel you posted an image of?

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 06:01 pm
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Yes!!

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 08:51 pm
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Sorry was out at sea and could only sent a short reply.To come back to the Bluenoses a mate of mine went out in Richardsbay to the Berge on 750 m he saw the showing I was talking about,rigged a sleger rig on a 120 bentbutt and went down.He said it was unbelievable the fight the fish he had on gave him,unfortunately he did not land the fish but the big shoal seems to be Richardsbay area now.That big reel is the right rig for that depth and class of fish.

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 10:16 pm
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You should try drop a small bluenose that you catch down as a livbait..hehe

When you find them again..Exciting stuff.

http://www.fishing.net.nz/how-to-catch/bluenose/
http://www.fishing.net.nz/how-to-catch/hapuku-and-bass/

Better you guys out there than no-one, at least someone can keep an eye out for the chinese vacuum cleaners on the high seas..

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 11:22 pm
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I'm not sure what a small Bluenose looks like? LOL - We have caught a good few on our trips to the Three Kings in NZ - all on Vertical jig in around 200-250m. None have weighed less than 10-12 or so kg. Probably the BEST eating fish on the planet. Watching this post closely.... looking good.

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 11:57 pm
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Regarding the Groupers? Check these out - caught 3 months ago at the Three Kings Islands in February this year. Polyprion americanus - looks very much like yours.  

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 12:16 am
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Sure wonder who classed it and if and DNA samples were take.

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 12:19 am
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But look closely to the anal fin area and jaw plate

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 12:26 am
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Most important is the moustache the line infront of the eye between the eye and lip running from the top to the corner of the mouth mine is brown wile the one in your photo is white.

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Iv mentioned the fact that these fish were properly identified please except it .There is a photo with the sap holding up the grouper ,next to me taking the photo was a Parksboard official James Wood.on his request it was identified by ORI.I wish the grouper wasn't part of this reef as we trying to see if we have a total new spies out in the deep that is very sustainable .I place this on the site to inform keen fishermen of one of the best time of fishing iv ever experienced. And how to explore it for yourself.I'm trying to get the local dealers to support us fishermen by importing the right gear for us to be able to explore new frontiers.This have kicked off and I get every days call on how to go about doing it and how to optian the gear ,how to make the rigs.And then photos of their success. It amassing to see how fast we gro We are a 3rd world country with our tackle being available.But if it bothers you guys I'll stop posting this experience

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No, think you misunderstanding the posters STB, they just look a hellava like the family of hapuka/bass/groper (as they call them in New Zealand) or close relatives. We are all pretty interested, speak for myself but ja who wouldn't be ;) Please don't let us stop you..

I've been wondering about Polyprion americanus for some time, my skipper could tell you how I've asked him in the past and I think he laughed me off a few..haha ja They have been described off our very deep and they must be somewhere out there..that is my take, someone is going to discover a fishery sometime, that is if the foreign trawlers or longliners haven't cleaned our stock we had already.

You reckon a billfish will eat a 10-12kg livie? This from the first link posted.

""This could also be part of the reason why broadies like to hang around bluenose schools, as squid is also a favourite food of the broadbill.

Bigger broadies love bluenose as well, proven by the fact that they are often found in the stomach contents of broadbill. ""

Thats why I asked..Curious as to what else is around eating the bluenose :)

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 02:21 am
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The broadbill is in that area but it takes a long time to establish the movements.Iv disasembled my rigs as to do improvements on it.our next step is to send a servey vessel out for 2 days to map the area with reef .It will save me more than 3 years .Then also to place fads out on these reefs as they (bluenose)tend to come up in the night time.There's not much on the net about there movement or migration pattern. The reels is going to be modified to run on hydraulics. Iv taken the motor off a 10 ton truck with its hydraulic tank.it use to run a crane on the back of a truck.the motor that turns the crane is being mounted on the hand reel.iv got a hydraulic spesialist helping me.Think I can get away fitting 2 hydraulic reels for under R10 000.

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 02:29 am
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Must say there is bigger fish down there.I lost two sets of braid 600 m at a time and twise the 400 pound trace broke after a fight of about 7 min on the action on the rod and reel it was close to 70 kg.iv landed a 110 kg shark on the daiwa and released it so the reel can Handel it

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 03:37 am
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Dr Hoffman please send me a what's app I'd like to send you some photos taken close up on the dorsal fin anal fin and moustage area.My number is 0824355443

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