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 Posted: Sun Dec 4th, 2016 11:04 pm
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Barbelman
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I bought some nr 10 swivels. These things are so small, they are the smallest swivels made by the company. I bought them not to connect to mainlines or hook links, but to slide over hooks to attach boilies to. But they are so small that they cannot even go over my nr 6 Continental Mugga hooks. It slides on to the nr 8 Mugga hooks though.
Now just for interest sake I tested how fast they would break. I used 27.3kg braid of a well known company (I will not name the brand as I do not want to get sued) That is 60lb braid. On the swivels website it is said they have been tested to break at 35lb.But my braid went every single time! And not at the knot but somewhere else. One time at the knot though.
Did I get a bad batch of the swivels or the braid:) I am so surprised by the performance of these tiny tiny swivels. I was going to buy a bunch of branded (expensive) no 8 swivels, but these at just R13.00 per pack offer such amazing value, that I will just have to stock up on them rather.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 01:58 am
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Why are you concerned about their strength if you are not using them on the main line? If you are only going to use them to attach the boilies to then their strength is of no consequence to the rig, as they will not be involved in the actual process of landing the fish... I use tiny microswivels on my D-rigs to attach my tigers to, they play no part once the fish is hooked..

Last edited on Mon Dec 5th, 2016 04:59 am by DocPhil

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 07:38 am
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Use a scale to determine at what kg of pulling force the braid actually breaks and then you will have peace of mind as to having a bad batch of braid or not.

Usually swivels and braid break at higher than rated limits.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 08:30 am
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DocPhil wrote: Why are you concerned about their strength if you are not using them on the main line? If you are only going to use them to attach the boilies to then their strength is of no consequence to the rig, as they will not be involved in the actual process of landing the fish... I use tiny microswivels on my D-rigs to attach my tigers to, they play no part once the fish is hooked..Not concerned at all, but I was just interested to know how strong they are. Since they are a no name brand and all that. I am however very disappointed that my braid  does not pass the test.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 10:40 am
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" I am however very disappointed that my braid  does not pass the test."

To measure is to know. I would not assume the braid is breaking lower than the rated breaking strength, unless you measure at what strain/kg it is actually breaking, especially if it is not breaking on the knots.

It does not mean that the braid is bad because the swivel does not pop at the advertised rated breaking strength, they may well be stronger than advertised.

You may be surprised.

If braid is breaking at less than 35lb(the stated breaking strain of the swivel) then you have an issue with the braid. You will not know until you test it.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 10:52 am
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I don't have a scale with a memory function. But yes, I would like to think the swivel is stronger than advertised.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 11:39 am
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Take a 25kg drum and fill it with water as full as you can, that should weigh about 27kg, fashion the braid so it is secured to something on the drums handle and lift it and see if it takes the strain. I used to use this years ago with 2l milk bottles to test my stepped leaders for flyfishing and check that my knots were good etc.. when I used to flyfish for barbel and grassies as a kid, same difference. 1L water = 1 Kg, you can use this in leu of a scale for smaller masses.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2016 11:50 am
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Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
Take a 25kg drum and fill it with water as full as you can, that should weigh about 27kg, fashion the braid so it is secured to something on the drums handle and lift it and see if it takes the strain. I used to use this years ago with 2l milk bottles to test my stepped leaders for flyfishing and check that my knots were good etc.. when I used to flyfish for barbel and grassies as a kid, same difference. 1L water = 1 Kg, you can use this in leu of a scale for smaller masses.

This is a good idea.
I've got s stack of weights. My 14.1kg braid fails with a 10kg weight.. But at least they are still stronger than my 7.7kg mono line, so lets say its good enough.

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