Pre baiting and what hookbaits to use - HELP ADVICE

WORS1433

New member
Hi All

I have googled and can not seem to find an answer.
I am going to mix up and make my own boilies to pre feed the swim I intend fishing in a local pond will be pre feeding for 3 weeks on homemade fishmeal boilies and particles.

Now my question! what hookbait will you use. the same boilies say maybe in pop up config or would you use a different boilie?

I am thinking use the feeder boilies with a pop up on 2 rods and particle bait on the other rod

what are your thoughts ?
 

HennieB

Sealiner
Feed and fish the same. I wouldn't mix particles and boilies, pick one and stick to it. In the long run boilies would be better.
 

Boss Wit NOS

Sealiner
WORS1433 wrote:
Dankie Hennie B. gaan dit so doen


Still deciding on Emmarentia, florida

nice man, emma is a beautiful venue, lots of silt, so consider that when making rigs..
very deep as well..

good luck man, I have always done well on pop ups and snowman rigs!!
 

WORS1433

New member
thank you for the feedback stickleback. interesting you mention the fishmeal. you are not the first person to mention it. Was told that fishmeal does well in winter when cats are not active.

What would you recommend..

Was thinking of doing a 3 way banana/toffee/Choc boilie
or just keeping it plain with Hemp and or do Peanut or pinapple

What would you recommend..

Noted thanx boss wit nos
 

Beeslek

New member
I have to congratulate you on your decision to put in a little extra effort.Pre-baiting can be a massive edge,it has competely transformed my fishing.I started doing it three years ago,since then my results have improved dramatically.So I'll share my experience with you.

The purpose of pre-baiting is to establish a safe,nutritious food source that the carp will visit on their daily patrol route.So my advice would be to spend some time observing the lake without actually fishing,especially early mornings and late afternoons.Let the carp tell you where they want to feed.Start feeding your bait in a few different spots,so they get used to it,they see it everywhere.I see that you mention public lakes,so if you want to concentrate your effort on a specific spot,your pre-baiting must be done very unobtrusively.If the wrong person sees it,they will poach your spot,guaranteed.If the spot is very weedy or silty,you can initially include a lot of small seeds with your bait,as the carp root around they will clean your spot for you,this should help your presentation tremendously.Over time reduce the particles and just feed your boilies.

As for the actual choice of bait,I have never been scared of fishy baits.Fish them all over,any time of the year.I admit that some venues have a serious barbel infestation,so fishmeal boilies may not be feasible in summer.I see you mention Florida,that lake gets fed with a lot of boilies,so you should be safe.I don't have any knowledge of Emmarentia.I would be very careful of baits with any artificial flavours,that can be a real lottery.Carp can be very fickle,their preference might change from day to day.If you know for certain that a particular flavour catches carp consistently on your lake,by all means use it.I only fish baits that are based on natural attractors,where soluble food ingredients are the only source of attraction.I have found that such baits tend to outfish any and all artificial flavours,all the time,anywhere.

As for hookbaits,I have found that you should fish what you feed.Boosted/glugged hookbaits don't really work after pre-baiting as their nutrient profile is too different.They do well as singles though...The only changes I can recommend is size,shape,bouyancy or colour.Make some of your baits with about 25% pop-up mix,mixed per volume,not weight.That should give you an almost perfect wafter.Presentation of said bait can vary from day to day though.I would start with one bog standard bottom bait,one balanced bait and one pop-up.The wafters tend to catch out some of the bigger fish,since they look and behave like freebies,snowmans can sometimes be too obvious or different.And always remember that carp spend a lot of time off the bottom,so zigz or floaters can be an option for a bonus bite,when they are not feeding on the bottom.

Final food for thought.After the recent rains,there is a real abundance of natural food for the carp to eat.They will always prefer naturals over our bait.So even with pre baiting,you might struggle.I tend to campaign from autumn to spring,when your bait might be the best available food source...
 

stickleback

New member
Beeslek excellent advice!!

Wors - pineapple,white choc & peanut have produced at both venues,so go with whatever you decide to pre bait with,with the rain dirtying the water high viz would help on the final presentation.

IF YOU'RE DOING AN OVERNIGHTER GO IN NUMBERS-SAFETY IS AN ISSUE!
 

Basspro

Senior Member
Why leave out the fishmeal ? ....... Catfish it seems to be the only answer

mmmmmm - I wouldn't. I use fishmeal through out the year. No cat problems really.
 

WORS1433

New member
Baie Dankie Beeslek vir jou insette dit word onsettend waardeer

Basspro thanx for confusing me.... I am really itching to try a fish/shrimp boilie

Switching over to English for the rest of the audience.

It is really nice to bounce ideas off the guys on the forum. So many times I often doubt what I have learned and forgotten with time. And sometimes it is just confirmation that I am going down the right path.

Thanx for the compliment Beeslek and it is my mission / new years resolution/ or plain down determination to fish more this year in the hopes of getting to that 10kg+ carp and to break my pb.

I want to do pre baiting as it gives me time during the week to go out and be closer to the place I love where I can relax. but it will also give me time to concoct new recipe's and boilies that I can test and note down the progress as I go along

The main reason is actually just to get out of the house relax, watch this awesome creation called nature and to appreciate what we have to be so thankful for. Working 8-5 in highly stressed environment and not really unwinding I resort to escaping into nature fishing and just taking it easy. nothing like getting to the waters edge at 5am pulling out a chair having a nice coffee and just watching the water for 30 to 60 min.
 

WORS1433

New member
Hi Guys. Just some feedback. started planning my fishing strategy for the year and was de railed by my mate and forced into fishing the Vlei. we planned the trip for this past weekend early on in the year.

I went to the Vlei with the gameplan of fishing the margins and sticking to it. A LONG 4 day waited yielded a positive result and new 12,7kg pb mirror only 5 fish came out this past weekend we know of biggest being 17kg, my 12 a 10 and 7 and 5,4
 

toli

Senior Member
dis goeie nuus wors.

post bietjie n foto van die vis, seker dit sal n paar manne weer moed gee.

 
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