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 Posted: Mon Aug 26th, 2019 01:39 pm
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Georgesn1992
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Howzit guys

I want to make a grinder purchase to throw some paddle tail, mostly Gourits area and surrounds, would be great if I could use the setup in the estuary as well but obviously a 9ft would not work in the estuaries.

I've read up on some good names for reels like the following, do you know of any good rods that could combo with these?

* Daiwa BG X000
* Abu Garcia Revo X
* Penn Clash X000
* Daiwa Saltist X000

So basically I want your input on a good combo for a 9ft setup.

Also, second and last question; Would I be able to use a similar setup but as 7ft at the rocks? Might want to target some edibles, I know I'd be limiting myself but I want to use it on the flat days, I got other 12/14ft multiplier setups. :)

Thanks for your input!

Last edited on Mon Aug 26th, 2019 02:47 pm by Georgesn1992

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 Posted: Mon Aug 26th, 2019 07:09 pm
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I'm glad you asked the question because I was about to ask something similar. I'll share my limited knowledge and hope someone comes in with an upgrade.
I have been using a 9ft Daiwa exceler for dropshot and spinning for a while now. I originally bought it because the 10'6" was a bit cumbersome in the surf gulleys I often fish. It's caught a few kob up to 8 kg and worn out a few reels. I have used it happily in bigger estuaries to throw rapala and stickbaits. It's also caught a stupid amount of big bluefish. I would confidently recommend it for your purpose.

For the reel I am presently using a new Daiwa BG4000. So far it has performed flawlessly but its early days still. If you're going to only use it for dropshot and estuary you might look at the 3000 - I'm using the 4000 for spinning.
Being rather new to succesful spinning, I also wanted to ask about an upgraded version of the above outfit for spinning. I was badly humbled recently while catching shad on plugs. The end result was a broken BG15 and a straightened Mustad big game hook. The rod survived and yesterday comfortably handled a 6kg shad, but the big one's still out there....
Someone with some more experienced advise please assist

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 06:32 am
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If you can get your hands on the old Berkley Air... I've pulled 30kg YFT on mine, yet it's so sensitive that you will get full value from a 500g fish as well. Magnificent rod!!!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 08:39 am
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Hi George
Spinning for shad and kob at night I use the exceller 9vt6. I have sucessfully used a 7ft aswell. Problem is when its windy, you need a bit heavier lure to keep the lure straight in the swell and wash.
Strange that you dont name any Shimano Reels as your weapon of choice.
My personal opinion is that the 4000 size reels Shimano (Sedona and Sahara) are in a class of their own against the other options. Smooth drag, better gears, will last longer. But this is my opinion. I currently use them as well as the Shimano Aernos 5000 and its a great reel.

I use 20lb braid on my light spinning outfits.
Hope this helps.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 09:17 am
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Still fishing my exceller 9'6" after all these years..and an Loomis archipelago now too, but the exceller is the stick I grab for a light spin..Too long for the estauries maybe there I just use a bass stick. Seaman..you could have been smashed by a few things but there is a likely suspect..PM with the location ;) and I'll give you some tips..First thing though is get a decent multiplier and mag it and stick some 0.55 high abrasion on and get some 1mm leader and start looking for a heavy rod. Those things that smash you up need the proper gear. You will get smashed up more than you land fish on the braid with those things..

Still looking for my 6kg shad!;)

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 11:47 am
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Howzit Stefan

I'm going to a fishing expo so I can have a hands on with each reel and rod that get mentioned, I will definitely have a look at the Sedona, Sahara and Aeros.

Thanks for the response and recommendation!

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 Posted: Fri Aug 30th, 2019 10:01 am
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Hi George
No Problem.
Have a look at the Shimano Socorro as well. Spinning is very hard on your gear. First thing that will start happening is your handle will get a slight wobble. Make sure the handle is fused.

Welcome to pm me if you have any more questions.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2019 10:13 am
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I have a excellor 9,6 2x piece
I use it to spin for shad when looking for live bait.
will cast 2 ounce plugs a country mile.

it is paired with a penn clash 4000.
a 5000 can work, but it is well balanced with the 4000.
nothing more is needed.

the braid I use is HMP 20lb.

nothing more is needed.

I have landed a nice kob on it when spinning for shad.

so enough back bone and lekker fun!!!!

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Heh, Willem/Stefan, do you put a braid leader on that 20lb or do you go straight to fluro?? I have the same set-up

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demon wrote:
Heh, Willem/Stefan, do you put a braid leader on that 20lb or do you go straight to fluro?? I have the same set-up

I use hmp braid 20lb.
it is local and it is lekker.
contact craig neil "Enigma" for some.

I use it directly with a 600-800 nylon leader which is just outside the rod tip.
nylon is 0,70mm

the braid does fray eventually, so then I would cut a piece back eventually.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 08:22 pm
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willem wikkel spies wrote: demon wrote:
Heh, Willem/Stefan, do you put a braid leader on that 20lb or do you go straight to fluro?? I have the same set-up

I use hmp braid 20lb.
it is local and it is lekker.
contact craig neil "Enigma" for some.

I use it directly with a 600-800 nylon leader which is just outside the rod tip.
nylon is 0,70mm

the braid does fray eventually, so then I would cut a piece back eventually.

Exactly the same. I just use .50mm fluro

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 Posted: Tue Sep 10th, 2019 10:55 am
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Howzit guys, just to let you all know what I ended pairing up with. Thanks for the recommendation.

Although I would have liked a 7/9ft Penn battalion, Penn was not at the expo, but this will be bought at a later stage for a complete different setup I am looking at for light spinning at the estuary.

Anyway I ended up ordering an Exceller 11ft 2piece (cheapie rod for R1200).
Paired it up with a BG5000, outstanding reel and personally think it is the best value for money spinning reel.
I think this will be a lekker entry level medium spinning setup.

Reason I chose the 11ft Exceller is that I can replace it with a 13ft Blue Marlin at a later stage to use with my BG5000 if I ever want to tackle Crackers and then I have a proper grinder setup as well as a medium spinning setup.

Pairing my BG5000 with chartreuse JBraid 30 pounds.

Shot for the input guys!

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Hi,what are the ratings on that 11ft exceller, didn't know they made that size..

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 Posted: Fri Sep 13th, 2019 10:35 am
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Howzit Demon

The extra heavy is only coming out end of the year if I'm not mistaken (1163XHFS). Im not sure what the lure weight is but probably 10 grams more or the same than the 1163HFS.
The 1163HFS is 50-110 grams

Here's the link

http://www.ganisangling.co.za/pi2930/fishing-rods/spinning-rods/saltwater-spinning/daiwa-exceller-saltwater-spin-series.html

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Hi, thanks for that.....

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