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 Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:48 pm
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TristanBE135
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Hi all,

Been a passive reader here for a while now but first time posting!

I've looked around the net and sealine and can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for regarding Mazeppa bay tackle.

I'm planning a trip there sometime later this year but a mate of mine informed me that my gear might not be up to the task. Namely my reels. I have a Shimano Tyrnos 30 2 speed and a Shimano Saragosa 20000. The plan is to drone out large baits and target Bronzies, greys etc. The bigger the better of course ;).

What do you guys think? I obviously don't want to buy all new gear, so I am hoping what I have will suffice.

Thanks!

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 Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2020 05:43 am
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RuanJ
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Hello Tristan.

Mazeppa is home to many giants. Here are many anglers that have fished there and they will tell you the same thing.

Do yourself a favor and more importantly the fish by getting the correct tackle for this style of fishing. ( Droning baits for big fish)

The 30 Tyrnos will catch you fish but in my opinion lacks capacity.

Minimum 50 Size reel.

The saragosa is taking a knife to a gunfight. You will receive hidings the majority of the time. It is not meant for droning big baits for big fish.

Remember, drag stops big fish. You still need capacity since you drone baits out and those big fish take strong runs.

Some guys like Craig Neil will tell you how they even get stripped on the 50 size reels because there are some Monsters in those waters.

If you want to have correct gear I say 50 size reel with:

1000m of 100 lb backing.
.80 topshot and a long windon to act as a gaff.

Again this is my opinion but I am sure this is the way to go.

In summary : use the Tyrnos 30 and Saragosa to catch smaller fish which could be used as bait ( I prefer catch and release).

Then for the big boys use a 50 Size reel with 1000 m of backing and fill the rest with .80/.85/.90 topshot.

I hope some of the seasoned big shark anglers comment on your post too.

Oh and even if you have the heaviest of tackle ( 80 w /130w) you will still receive a proper hiding from a monster that is simply too big and strong for even that class of tackle.

Craig once told me : Hoe groter die tackle hoe groter die pak slae. ( Bigger the tackle the bigger the hidings)

Tight lines brother.
- Ruan((goodp_::tight::?;):shark:ssswim:((r(e(ling

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 Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2020 05:44 am
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The Tyrnos 30 will be a better bet than the Gosa. If you cant get a 50w then use the 30w load it with as much 80lb as possible and put 100m of 0.85mm and a long leader. hopefully you can get 1000m in total on the reel. should be fine for most fish but maybe don't drop very far to begin with, say 400m max.

Its true drag stops big fish.

50w is the standard for big fish,has the capacity and the drag is perfect. 1000mx100lbs and 100m of 0.9mm with a long leader and you should be bulletproof.

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Hi there,

Big baits don't necessarily catch bigger fish, my baits are hardly bigger than a fist size.

It's more about line capacity and stopping or drag power. I fish Talica 50's with 1000m of 100lbs, topped with 100m of 0.8 and 2mm leader and a preset strike setting of 12kg. Anything less than this tackle I would deem as light tackle.

Leave your gosa 20000 in your bag, it's not suitable to drone with. I've seen many of the grinder guys getting their butt kicked - it's not fair on the fish, and frustrating to the angler to lose a fish due to not using the appropriate tackle class for the targeted species.

The objective should be to get the fish landed and back to the water as quick as possible to avoid unnecessary stress on the fish and not fart around with a grinder and i.e 50lbs braid battling for hours and thinking what a great and long fight that was......

Line capacity is also very important, sometimes the fish pick up close, let's say 300m and sometimes you need the far drop 500 to 600m, often the far drop produces the quicker pull but it can vary from day to day an depends on the spot and conditions.

Cheers and tight lines.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2020 01:29 pm
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Thanks guys, some solid advice there. So in summary of what has been said:

-Leave the Gosa in the bag
-Use the Tyrnos 30 as a last resort and don't drone past 400m
-Rather get a 50w with 100lbs

Now I just have to see my financial situation, I was hoping to not have to buy a new reel and braid!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2020 09:29 am
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To suggest something on the "affordable" side.

Tyrnos 50wii - 1000m 100lb grinder braid + topshot.
or
TLD 50wii - 1000m 100lb grinder braid + topshot.
or
Penn squall 50ii - 1000m 100lb grinder braid + topshot.
or
Tiagra's and internationals are a bit pricey (but worth it)

Oh and a decent (not bulky) harness that you can clip in and out of quickly when needed.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2020 08:36 pm
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The most affordable 50 sized reel is the Okuma SLX50wII. Last time I looked they were around 3.3k brand new. My friend had 1000m of 100lbs boss braid and 100m of 0.85mm on his.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2020 07:17 am
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Dave Batista wrote:
The most affordable 50 sized reel is the Okuma SLX50wII. Last time I looked they were around 3.3k brand new. My friend had 1000m of 100lbs boss braid and 100m of 0.85mm on his.


Left that out on purpose i've seen a few of them fail.
It will probably get the job done so if longevity isnt the biggest factor then its and option t(((up((

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 Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2020 09:50 am
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How did they fail?

Interested to hear.:)

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reel seat breaks off the frame

I have witnessed it happening twice

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 Posted: Thu Aug 6th, 2020 02:04 pm
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seen two spools pop.

one popped during spooling.
and yes it was being spooled correctly.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2020 05:48 pm
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king kob wrote:
reel seat breaks off the frame

I have witnessed it happening twice


This is a common problem, I know it from the shimano 50 LRS, Graphite housing riveted to stainless steel reel foot and to high drag force applied, causing the reel foot to crack off.
Wont or should not happen to aluminium or stainless steel bodies.
At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

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