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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 06:50 pm
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CandleWorks
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Hi Guys

I am new to lure fishing and tried my luck this weekend at Ganzekraal / Grotto Bay area. Mainly with paddle tails of various colours.

High wind and rough seas made the water pretty murky but there were lots of birds hitting the water and even bait fish washed up on the beach.

Of course I thought my luck have turned, but not a single bite.

Been thinking that a nice shiny spoon may have been a better idea.

Anybody have experience with spoons in that area? Will be going back in a month of 2.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 06:40 am
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SE made the water upwell on west coast, thats why the bait and birds were against the side, if the water was cold already you were wasting your time..melkbos probably not the best place to throw a spoon..Pick a species first and chase that till you worked it out then expand..

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 Posted: Wed Mar 24th, 2021 05:29 pm
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Thank you for the feedback.

May I ask what specie you would recommend to target as a beginner and lures to try?

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 Posted: Fri Mar 26th, 2021 09:13 am
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Elf/shad would be the best bet and a 1.5 oz tin abu is the best spoon, along with a 1.5 oz tin keel spinner..Not sussed on west coast spots, seen masses of katonkel and bait against the side there, but that was as an upwell occured and generally the water is too cold for your target species to be hanging around. Muizenburg corner/baileys the closest spot that I can think of that guys spin for elf at?

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 Posted: Fri Mar 26th, 2021 12:32 pm
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I will focus on shad next summer then and maybe on the Muizenberg side before then.

Opinion on trying for kob along West Coast sand beaches? With swim bait / dropshot?

Thanks again for advice

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 Posted: Fri Mar 26th, 2021 04:14 pm
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Work out when the cob are there and you'll get more lucky, throwing a lure in front a fish in the wrong spot, will get you better results anytime than throwing a lure in front of no fish, at the "right spot"..

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 Posted: Mon Apr 19th, 2021 02:53 pm
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Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
SE made the water upwell on west coast, thats why the bait and birds were against the side, if the water was cold already you were wasting your time..melkbos probably not the best place to throw a spoon..Pick a species first and chase that till you worked it out then expand..

I agree with the proficient Dr Halibut.
IMHO,Use of spoons,spinners,etc is more conducive to warmer ocean water such as East Coast;

Colder water such as on West Coast,normally doesn't yield fish via spoons,unless its perhaps Langebaan Lagoon when Elf sometimes put in an appearance. Cheers

Last edited on Mon Apr 19th, 2021 03:16 pm by Walt

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 Posted: Tue Apr 20th, 2021 06:30 am
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In the old days the west coast was full of jumbo elf and leervis..times have changed!

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 Posted: Wed Apr 21st, 2021 01:45 pm
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:cool:Throwing spoon for Kob is NOT for the feint haerted OR those that just want to catch for catching sake ....throwing spoon for kob is a mindset...patience and conditions...

Conditions being your MOST important...I follow the Kobfather and his crew and they fish all n sundry down CT way...they catch kob on a regular basis , yes , be it on bait ...BUT..kob are kob...whether they here on my east coast OR there in CT surrounds...

Its all about working out the code for THAT certain area/spot you want to go throw....too many youngsters today hop skip n jump all over the coast line and bemoan the fact ...aaaahh NO FISH/Kob...

I say ..pick 3 or 4 spots you think look good and should yield kob..THEN ..WORK those spots out...

Tide..moon...water temp ...weather patterns etc etc...take notes ...barometric pressure ...ALL that is conducive to fishing optimumly...and not just **** n soek as I like to call it...

Ther is no short cut OR some magic spoon that will "attract" the kobbies...its ALL about working out the kobbies way and what they prefer as far as conditions are concerned...

For my bit of coast which is all of 70 odd kay long...these are the 5 conditions that have produced for me kob on spoon over the past 20 odd years...

Water temp at least at 19
Clear clean water
Rising baro topping out at 1021hpk
slight west wind coming off of a low pressure
outgoing tide with 3 hours to low and of course this must all coincide with that last dark before first light...

These are just a few of my findings ...once you find your working conditions ...you WILL produce and of course you need to put the time in...

Then we get to the actual spoon..line ..reel and rod...BUT thats for another time...

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 Posted: Wed Apr 21st, 2021 02:18 pm
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Thank you the reply.

Sounds like great advice. Can't wait for the next post.

I have 2 spots I want to figure out. Have seen pictures of kob being caught there.

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