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 Posted: Mon Oct 30th, 2006 08:10 pm
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Both the torium 30 an the saltist 50 are the lower budget versions off shimano's trinidad an daiwa's saltiga..though the saltist an torium still cost well in excess off R1200 each they still the higher selling versions an offer great value for money..so bring out your views on which provides best value for money an why?..may the best reel win..

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 Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 05:19 pm
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HEY MASTER. SEEMS LIKE THE GUYS ARE NOT INTO COMPARISONS OF TACKLE. IM INTERESTED THOUGH.MY 2 CENTS IS THAT BOTH ARE EXTREMELY SMOOTH, CAST WELL,GOOD DRAG(SALTIST DRAG IS BETTER- NEEDS CONSTANT SERVICING THOUGH)BOTH LOOK GOOD, BOTH GETS SCRATCHED EASILY.I THINK MOST GUYS GET INFLUENCED BY THE TACKLE USED IN ESA, REMEMBER THEY HAVE TO USE THEIR SPONSORS TACKL;E

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 Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 12:13 pm
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What are specs of the torium 30 as compared to the saltist 50.

Gear ratio:

mm Line capacity etc

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 Posted: Mon Nov 6th, 2006 06:27 pm
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Torium 30

 
  • The three Shimano's A-RB anti-rust bearings are at least 10 times more corrosion resistant than standard stainless steel ball bearings
  • The one-piece frame will not flex under high strain
  • The precision click star drag system is easy to adjust on the fly.
  • High Speed 6.2:1 Gear Ratio
  • Super Stopper With Assist Stopper
  • Die-Cast Aluminum Frame
  • Precision click Star Drag
  • Oversized clicker button for ease of use
  • Adjustable Handle Shank
  • Line Capacity - 25/420, 30/350
 

 

Saltist 50

4.9:1 gear ratio.

Aluminium one piece frame and side plates.
Infinite anti-reverse
Machined aluminium spool
Ratchet alarm
Centrfugal anti-backlash control
Line capacity: 320m 15kg, 200m 24kg or plenty of braid.
Ball bearings: 3 CRBB
Weight: 690 grams

 

hope this helps

cheers

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 Posted: Mon Nov 6th, 2006 06:57 pm
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Thanks Nivi4zn,

Looks like I 'll go for the Torium 30.:D

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 10:44 am
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both are highly capable, im a shimano fan. so i say good choice.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 10:54 am
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Id say good choice as well. the torium out classes the saltist in my own opinion.

I have fished with both reels and found the Shimano to be much smoother and realiable.

Im a shimano fan:P 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 11:24 am
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Thanks Guys,

I am not a fan of any Particular brand, I have not had any problems with my Grandwave (using for about 2 yrs).

I have also been using my shimano TLD 20/40 for about 14 years without a any problems.

If the quality of the torium is anything like my Shimano TLD I will be more than Pleased.

Khani

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 11:28 am
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Well Khani i think you answered your question already. Your current shimano is still going strong after 14 years:shock: That is a long time. Just goes to show the quality with Shimano Reels.

BElieve me a Torium can fight almost any fish/shark. Its a very capable reel

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 11:57 am
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Hey Nivi, I know the guys must be wondering Why I even bothered choosing between the  torium and saltist. Considering the service my Shimano has given me.

Let's just say I'd like to keep an open Mind, Considering I had not bought a shimano in over 14 Years.

Here is Something else to consider I still use a Penn Squider (Can anyone even remember that name) on my fishing ski and its still going strong. The reel belonged to my dad and I have no idea how old it is.

The point is, If I never bought a shimano 14 yrs ago  I'd probably be still fishing with the old 4:1 ratio penn's, considering I have about 5 or 6 of them, 2 of them stiil brand new in the box (never used).

So change sometimes is a good thing, as long as it is for the better.

 

 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 12:12 pm
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WOW..Khani a friend of mine has one of those 4:1 ratio penns.Good reels. But i understand what you saying.

An open mind is prob the best , when it comes to fishing.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 12:33 pm
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I can personally assure anyone that once u see the internals off the saltist u will definately not buy one! It is scary how it all holds up without exploding when compared to the build off the shimano!my torium despite not having fancy chrome an scratchin easily is still rock solid internally.. Shimano really built a masterpiece!..

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 12:36 pm
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An for those people who might think i am biased towards the shimano i would like to remind them that i also own a saltist 50 an the reel is currently under repairs for damage to the drag star! So despite it feelin so solid its really quite weak! My personal favourite bet the torium an the saltist is the shimano!..

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 01:04 pm
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well guys, seems like shimano owes us big time, we rooting for them. like crazy. i too have a shimano 20 / 40 for about 4yers and have never opened it nor serviced it. only oil from the outside. too many guys are buying reels and then changing the handles to larger ones etc. why waste themoney. I have seen with my own eyes the power of the shimano speedmaster 4/5. i saw a guy slide a bonnie in beechewood , get picked up and fought powerfully for about 30 min. eventually landed a mother size diamond skate. i was amazed on the reel. it worked well from instant hookup, drag, and whinch.

But i say

Its the driver of the car that wins the race, angler more important than the reel,

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 01:26 pm
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Blade,Master,Khani

I think Shimano should sponsor us:D I have a Shimano Speedmaster IV. I have put the reel through its paces and not once has it let me down. Neither has it been opened up. Like blade said just oil from the outside and thats that.:)

One that note, my Speedmaster is making a squeaking noise when i reel. The noise sound like the handle needs lube....any ideas guys???

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 01:43 pm
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I will be buying a torium shortly (just about convinced my wife that the torium is more of a neccessity than a new washing machine - old one still works).

we have heard different views and comments from guys who have experience problems with their Daiwa's,

Has anyone experience any problems with their Shimano's - just to be fair. 

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I will be buying a torium shortly (just about convinced my wife that the torium is more of a neccessity than a new washing machine - old one still works).

we have heard different views and comments from guys who have experience problems with their Daiwa's,

Has anyone experience any problems with their Shimano's - just to be fair. 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 01:46 pm
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Yip, its the handle.

could be in a few places, the first ill check is between the finger handle and teh handle shaft, put oil, secondly be very careful not to oil the star too much, what appens is that teh oil goes onto teh drag washers and softens it, and then u bugered.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 9th, 2006 12:40 pm
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Blade,,,What you doing tomz???? I need you to check my reel out:P

whats say ol friend? im not very experienced when it comes to servicing reels

tight lines

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 Posted: Thu Nov 9th, 2006 01:20 pm
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k, no prob,im no expert but can help. let me know

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