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slater Member 
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Hi guys, great to have sealin back!!! I have a 3 piece rod. After fishing over the weekend I cant separate 2 of the pieces. I have ried twisting and pulling. I have even sprayed some rod/ reel cleaner on to it. Any advice thanks Slater |
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Kumz Sealiner 
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Hi Slater , Initially to get the rod apart i wud suggest some hot water ...to try & get the rod apart ... i have also seen guys shake their rod vigourously ... to break the build up so that it will make teh rod easier to take apart !!! There after when assembling the rod you can use ther pesperation from your nose ..wipe on to rod before putting together ... I have herd guys saying that you can use Mr Min or even cadle wax !!! Good luk , hope this helps !!! |
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Maestro Senior Member 
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I have the same prob slater, i bought a new 3pc, after the first use, 2 pieces r stuck, i've tried everythng,even sent it to a rod builder,but no luck...but thanks Kumz,i'll try ur suggetions. |
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neilg Sealine Team 
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Here is a way that DEFINATELY works 8 pieces of wood 1cmx1cmx10cm-15cm a roll of masking tape put masking tape around rod (just next to joint), about 4 turns - DON'T TEAR IT OFF, now put one piece of wood and tape that in place and continue till all 4 are around the 1 side of the joing do exactly the same on the other side now twist and turn problem solved tip shown to me by Chad Alcock |
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Maestro Senior Member
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Söunds cool nielg,will try it,but is the masking tape strong enuf to hold? |
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neilg Sealine Team
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It is strong enough, put it this way, we did it to seperate the 2 pieces of my shimano jigging rod - SHE WAS SERIOUSLY STUCK a rough drawing to explain the tape just keeps the wooden pieces in place and the wood gives you something to hold onto. WORKS LIKE A CHARM Attachment: 1.JPG (Downloaded 3225 times) Last edited on Tue Mar 24th, 2009 07:18 am by neilg |
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Maestro Senior Member
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Thanks,so simple yet so brilliant, will give it a shot |
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neilg Sealine Team
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that's exactly what I said when Chad and Uncle Dave showed me ! |
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Maestro Senior Member
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Great minds think alike |
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slater Member
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Guys thanks so much will try it and let you know |
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Maestro Senior Member
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slater wrote:Guys thanks so much will try it and let you knowtry what? To have a great mind like nielg? ...lol, just kidding, yeah,i'v got to try it as well on my rod, keep us posted |
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camo shorts Senior Member 
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The other way is to get a better half,  ,who grips like a demon. If I'd seen this method, I could have saved thousands on rings, lol. |
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Hooked Senior Member 
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More permanent solution , sorry bad photies Cross hatched shrink grip both sides of join , credits to F.Burger who did the work Attachment: Picture 204 (Small).jpg (Downloaded 3169 times) Last edited on Wed Mar 25th, 2009 06:06 am by Hooked |
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camo shorts Senior Member
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Seen some of Francois's custom rods, wow, pity he's changed focus and not building rods for now |
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neilg Sealine Team
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Jip hooked that will work, the solution to the problem is GRIP you need "something" to hold on to |
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nob Member 
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The other way is to get 2 guys pulling the 2 pieces and a 3rd standing in the middle gently bouncing the rod at the join. The worst thing to do is to twist the pieces as the graphite is placed under unnatural stress... |
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Psy Sealiner 
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solution: buy one piece rods! |
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skrops Sealiner 
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sand the male piece very lightly with very fine sand paper. little bit at a time until the male and female fits tight but male comes out without any problems. a trick Carcharias showed me is to rub the palm of you hand over your forehead then onto the male piece before insertion. also works like a charm. |
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slater Member
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Guys, I tried the firt suggestion: hot water. The pieces parted easily. thanks for all your help and ingenious suggestions. Yours truely macguver |
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Gerald Nel Member 
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A great friend of mine had the same problem. Just could not get the pieces out, about hour later after just about the whole club tried to get this loose he mentioned over his brandy with a slight grin that the oaks should be carefull not to break his one piece. |
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Maestro Senior Member
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I had a 3pc stuck 4 2 years, i just tried nielg's method with the pieces of wood...worked like a charm! Thanks nielg, you r a star! Last edited on Mon Feb 14th, 2011 02:29 am by Maestro |
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jaccil Senior Member 
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Rub a bit of candle wax on the male joint before joining, this should prevent the pieces from getting stuck. Last edited on Wed Apr 1st, 2009 08:47 pm by jaccil |
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Maestro Senior Member
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Thanks,will do |
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Def-e-nition Sealiner 
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ANthony- PLEASE PIN this Somewhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 EFFING Days Of swearing cursing shouting complaining- and the first EYE - and it came loose . and lemme tell you it was STUCK . I used it to walk along the beach back to the car - and tap for tap I was starting the beginnings of an expensive relationship ......... Da Biatchhhh......... Attachment: Image0468.jpg (Downloaded 1052 times) Last edited on Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 12:12 pm by Def-e-nition |
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Def-e-nition Sealiner
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.......And de Solution . !!!!!!!! Go go Neil !!! Jinne , FINALLY , FINALLY , it came Loose .. we stood there in disbelief .Admin Please Pin This to Avoid any frustration !!!!!!! I always Lagged at the guys and thought" you Nit wit - serve you right for pushing it In so Deep ...." and then just walking with it in my hand - poof- the badluck fairy came to visit me ...  hell , I'm relieved. Easy as pie . There you go . Neil's advice in living colour . I pray this only happens to someone i really really really Despise . eish ... By the Way - I Notice it happening to a Lot More Loomis Owners than most others . I see my BM G3 does Not have the Same finish , and hence , the same problem , so I would strongly Advise Most owners of Loomis rods - to bookmark this Post , or heed the advice !!! I tried cold water down the Male , hot Over the Male . a voodoo doll .Tying it to the Neighbours bull mastiff.To My Rav . Nothing worked !!! ARRRRGHHHH !!!!! Lol . Attachment: Image0467.jpg (Downloaded 1052 times) Last edited on Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 12:09 pm by Def-e-nition |
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Mike Pike Sealiner 
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To stop them getting stuck in the future, polish up the male part with scotch-brite. and before putting together again i rub my fingers thru hair and on face as the natural oils on skin and hair work as a fine lubricant, works for me .....no u not using my face and hair ... use yours... LOL |
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Enigma Moderator 
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Invest in a bit of surfboard wax (R10) and put a touch on the rod before setting the rod up. Put the male section into the female of the joint with the guides 90 degrees off centre then twist it into position (lightly) The sections won't fly out when casting so no need to jam them in. |
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Patrick Sealiner 
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Neil bru, remind me to buy you a beer or 6 when i meet you at the bash! Your tip saved my trip. Just bought an 8ft Exage Surf for the Kei and got the blimmin tip stuck this afternoon. Luckily the missus isnt home coz there was some swearing i tell you. Your method is dynamite and its now unstuck without damage. Thanks a million for your post! |
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BigBass Sealiner 
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Thanks, neilg - worked on a favourite old flipping stick that somehow got really badly stuck at the telescoping butt section and would not budge until I applied your method!  |
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neilg Sealine Team
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Only read this post again now Glad to see it helped a few people I will gladly accept beer, biltong and fishing tackle as a "reward" Sharing IS caring |
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wp34 Sealiner
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I am rebuilding 2 Assassins for a customer. One is a Heavy Competitor that was given to him when he got his Protea/Springbok colours. Tried hot water, gasflame, blocks of wood, swearing, cursing, etc NOTHING WORKS!!! |
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thika Sealiner 
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So what about Neil's trick? My dad taught me when I was 6 years old to rub on the sides of my nostrils for all the fatty stuff But I don't like break-up sticks anyway |
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wp34 Sealiner
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thika wrote:So what about Neil's trick? Didnt work either!! Customer now has 2x one piece Assassins!! LOL |
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Enigma Moderator
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Brian. Some tips on this method 1. The blocks you use must be at least 25cm long to work properly as it allows the better spread of torque,if made to short to much pressure in to short an area and you can twist the rod blank off. 2. Some of the rods I have recently had to seperate have an almost matt and oily type of coating on that makes the blocks slip and not transfer the torque you apply, into the joint. To prevent this first wrap a length of twine onto the blank to make for better purchase. 3. If these donated rods are 2nd hand the jointsmight just be glued. Yes people do strange things and itnwont be a first. 4. If all else fails remove the bottom plug or end cap and the use a dowel of similar diameter to the male part of the joint and ta the sections apart. Use a a slaver if the sizes differ to much as with to much a difference you could just end up splitting the blank if you apply to much force. |
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wp34 Sealiner
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I have put a layer of binding thread over the joints and epoxied over them, making them 1 piece rods. Customer suggestion after we could break up the joints! He's happy, im happy! LOL |
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FRITZABU Sealiner 
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Can confirm. This work perfectly, but I have replaced the blocks, with pieces of nice thick conveyor belt. That can also not damage the blank, yet still work 100% Last edited on Tue Mar 19th, 2013 02:17 pm by FRITZABU |
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Enigma Moderator
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Thanks for that tip. That will work even better as it has added grip and will form around the blank. Now to find a conveyory to cut up. |
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Nigel66 Member
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Packing ice around the joint for a while, and then using bicycle rubber innertube strips around each side to provide grip has worked well for me. |
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stephan.chambers Member
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Hahah I want to laugh my head off !! Because I was just as stupid ... 2 years ago I had the same problem and only after some blood sweat and tears did i get them loose. This year I thought I would use a bit of grease on the ends thinking that would do the trick...... BUT it made the problem worse and I was fully stuck this time - it seems the grease causes a vacuum or something and it just would noy budge - hot / cold water nothing - leaving it in the sun for a day nothing - using my lighter nothing... only after having 3 buddies holding on and doing the twist thing it eventually came undone. I then used baby powder which seemed to do the trick.... but thanks for this tip I will remember... |
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Aydee Member 
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Thanks a lot! Now I can't wait to go and collect my brand new (now one-piece) I was forced to leave at my in-law's place because I couldn't get it separated. Recently used the x-shaped heatshrink and I think I'll apply it asap. |
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Adolf Member 
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With the rod behind you place it in the bend of your knees with the joint between the knees. Now firmly grip the rod on the outside of the knees. Pull your legs apart and voila! |
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Enigma Moderator
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Adolf. If you read from the beginning, this remedy is applied once all traditional methods have failed, including the back of the knees method |
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Koper Saltwater Moderator 
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Enigma wrote:Adolf. If you read from the beginning, this remedy is applied once all traditional methods have failed, including the back of the knees method And belief me, it's the only one that work when all else has failed... |
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Adolf Member
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My fault guy's. This happen when you skip the row. And the lesson learn't........ read al the posts. |
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FRITZABU Sealiner
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Here is a photo of some of the conveyor belting, I am using. 3 to 4 on each side of the stuck rod section. If the conveyor belting is not available. Old truck tyre pieces lying next to main roads, should also work. Attachment: IMG_0001.JPG (Downloaded 374 times) |
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saltydonut Member 
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Anybody want to buy a 3 piece rod with 3 tips. please note 2 of the tips are useless as the bloody rod wont come apart! |
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Psy Sealiner
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saltydonut wrote:Anybody want to buy a 3 piece rod with 3 tips. take it to Rod Worx, he's in your area.  |
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saltydonut Member
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Right, after 2 years I finally have my 3 piece blue marlin in 3 different sections again. I tried hot water first.........this is a stupid idea as it melted the resin near the eyes. Secondly I tried the block method .....no go ended up scratching the rod. This rod was toight! (Austin powers and fashure.) Then I taped a deap sea gaff to one end and pulled.....ended up straitening the solid stainless steel hook. By now I am stuffing up a lot of my equipment and the rod is starting to look like SH1T.(Only used once.) Then today I asked the guys at Trophy tackle den were I bought the rod. I should have done this first and saved myself 2 yrs of pain. Thanks guys the tip worked like a bomb and I pulled the pieces apart with my bear hands and absolutely no effort. The solution: Ice, ice baby, just wrap in ice and leave for ten minutes. |
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capetonian Member 
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saltydonut wrote:Right, after 2 years I finally have my 3 piece blue marlin in 3 different sections again. We live and learn! |
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ABDB Member
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I know this has been mentioned already but not in enough detail. Take 2 pieces of bicycle tube. Wrap a piece tightly on either side of the joint, twist, pull and open. No damage to the rod, grips like anything! |
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ridah achmat Member
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Thank you Neilg you really are a star for sharing that!!!! |
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