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Hi Guys,

 

I believe that there are plenty Chokka (squid) around .I am not experienced on how to catching CHOKKA.

I will be going on the boat by the weekend conditions permitting.

 

Can more experienced Sealiners offer some help or advise with regards to:  

 

-         What line Thickness to use?

-         What jigs are the best to use - type and colours?

-         What is the best way rig the jigs – i.e single or double etc?

-         How to catch them - rod or handlines – which is best?

-         Are there and special techniques or jigging methods to use?

 

Any useful advice or comments most welcome

Thanks chaps

 

(NB – Chokka is good to eat and excellent bait)



 

Jpet

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Hi

We use the normal chokka jigs, a weighted one at the bottom and the floating type on the same line about a metre up. We use a light rod cause it make it a bit easier to feel once the chokka is on the lure. We drop it down till it hits bottom, pull it up a bit off the bottom and then use a gentle up and down movement to give the lures a little life. There is no real bite as such as with bottom fishing...the line just becomes heavy...don't strike...just reel up steadily and be prepared to be sprayed with water as you pull the chokka clear of the water surface. Play around to see which colours work best on the day and have fun.

This has worked for us.... 

If any chokka boffins out there can shed more light and improve our technique and catch rate I'm all ears....

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The only thing we do differently is we do not put the two so far apart. The floating one ends up about 30-40cm max away from the bottom weighted one. 10kg line is the heaviest you should use. We use 4kg braid with a 6kg mono leader. We only started using the braid last December and it makes one hell of a difference as you can feel everything. Different places seem to like different colours although the pink floating yamashita has to be my all time favorite and I don't think I'm alone on that one.

Recently I have found the orange and green striped canvas covered jig with all the barbs on it to be superb. Have no idea what make they are, I buy them at False Bay tackle.
Also the blue and black stripe (mackeral colouring) works very well. When they slack, rub them (the jigs) on some pilchard. Even cut tiny pieces of sard and put it on. Thats been a winner for us. I have left one or two in the Berkley "juice", not sure if it made a difference on that day as it was thick anyway and the whole crew was firing. But the pilchard trick works well.

Last edited on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 11:44 am by Hammertime

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pink floating yamashita is the best!! i dont even use a weighted jig, just a barrel sinker and then 2 pinks, or a pink an white about a ruler length apart..

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Yeah I find the ruler length apart accounts for far more doubles than if you make them further apart.

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chartreuse color lead jigs are deadly in false bay.... been using the same color for 15 years fishing in false bay and never let me down!!

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Dorado75 wrote: chartreuse color lead jigs are deadly in false bay.... been using the same color for 15 years fishing in false bay and never let me down!!
Don't forget the "Policeman" blue and chartreuse combo!

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Hi Guys

thank you so much for sharing your info  - at least I have an idea of how to go about it now , this will certainly help me catch some chokka

thanks once again.

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Any picture on this jig - lure?

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Do you attach the top one directly to the main line, or do you make use of a 3way swivel???

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There you go.

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I use a single swivel from the braid joining the 6kg leader.
Then it's good old loops, simple, like most fishing.

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Here is my little collection, the ones on the bottom row are all weighted, the top ones are not, the white one in the top row is a new jig, someone gave me 10 of them, seems to be quite nice, it is mainly made of rubber and is flexible.

Friday is chokka catch day on my boat, 3 guys = 60 chokka = enough bait for a while

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Has anybody tried using lights at night in False Bay to attract chokka?

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I have seen some guys using the luminous green 6mm snap sticks , attached just above there chokka jigs - they proved to be very successfull  , don't know what you guys think about that

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I plan on catching my chokka this year too. Asked the commercials a few questions and I have now aquired a powerful submersable light that gets dangled out the back of the boat on a float. Then use squid jigs like mouses while the trap stick waits for a live bait. Fill the hatch with chokka while the trap stick hunts other monseters also interested in the fuss.

We'll see how it goes!

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156 wrote: Has anybody tried using lights at night in False Bay to attract chokka?

we catch very good chokka at night under the lights at simonstown on the wall!! especially the corner one near the yacht moorings!!

 

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Dorado75 wrote:
we catch very good chokka at night under the lights at simonstown on the wall!! especially the corner one near the yacht moorings!!

 
Assuming this is in the Navy yard, access is restricted/ prohibited here isn't it?  We have tried off the yacht moorings during the late afternoon but the seals were all over us maybe we should try a late night outing. 

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When the squid are about half the dockyard workers are under the light.

There is a funny weed on the bottom so have a look at your jig every now and again.

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jb2 wrote: When the squid are about half the dockyard workers are under the light.

There is a funny weed on the bottom so have a look at your jig every now and again.


yeah that weed is a bugger, if your jigs just touch the bottom they are completely fouled up!

 

156- we are referring to fishing under the lights there from the boat, and not from the wall

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I find that black and yellow combo works well for me....off Buffels Bay

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Is it ok at simons town yo catch chokka without permit.

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No get a permit, cheaper than a kg of chokka in the cape.

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Any luck with that squid yet.
Has anybody tried again

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People have been catching the inkers till now..not stopped.

At least in CT and hermanus, KBay and simonstown from the side. But not now with the lockdown in place, no one except maybe the navy guys are klapping it? The commercial fleet up the east coast can still fish till the end of the month when the the commercial season closes. Sometimes we leave early bells for tuna out of simonstown and the seawall on the navy side is BLACK from the night before, then you know the chokka is chowing!
There are other places you can catch them from the side, I've done it to disprove non-believers, big bull chokkas.. ;) From the side a casting dollie with the keel weight is key, I've caught them under the harbour lights and also in the middle of nowhere after lugging in a 12V LED spotlight and a motorcycle battery, to be honest you just need the jig to be glowing to draw them and a spotlight on the water is not necessary.

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Dr halibut hoffman wrote: People have been catching the inkers till now..not stopped.

At least in CT and hermanus, KBay and simonstown from the side. But not now with the lockdown in place, no one except maybe the navy guys are klapping it? The commercial fleet up the east coast can still fish till the end of the month when the the commercial season closes. Sometimes we leave early bells for tuna out of simonstown and the seawall on the navy side is BLACK from the night before, then you know the chokka is chowing!
There are other places you can catch them from the side, I've done it to disprove non-believers, big bull chokkas.. ;) From the side a casting dollie with the keel weight is key, I've caught them under the harbour lights and also in the middle of nowhere after lugging in a 12V LED spotlight and a motorcycle battery, to be honest you just need the jig to be glowing to draw them and a spotlight on the water is not necessary.
  TY for the insight Doc. just a couple more questions.
  1. Could you please share some info on your LED light setup.
  2. Do the squid stay around through winter in the inshore regions like harbours etc?

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I just used a flood light, 20something Watts, 12-24v, waterproof type mounted on a light pvc pole stuck in a rod holder..I am not sure about if the squid are around in your area when, but with all fish they have a water they like and a temperature they like and they will follow the bait as well.

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-other-electronics/port-elizabeth/24w-spot-flood-beam-led-tractor-work-lights-offroad-4wd-4x4-boat-camping-truck-lights/1002122781350911271970309

I have a lamp like that one, its an old gumtree post but ja one like that. I've used a DIY lipo battery pack from recovered laptop cells and a mini 12V motor cycle battery either or..What I found that the light on the water was not necessary, they are around or not, but when the floodlight couldn't charge the glow of the dollies anymore then they leave them alone. It was more the glow of the jigs.
Flood light got commandeered for the boat, works great..

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I am over in australia at the moment and this chart will give a good starting point to what Colour jig to use

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