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Aliens Really Do Exist!
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zulu-X-treme
Sealiner
Something to consider... If you move slower than the speed of light (which is all of us) then times goes forward wouldn't it be fair to say that if you moved faster than the speed of light time would go... Yes! then time would have to go backward... And moving at the speed of light exactly, then time would stand still? Einstein never had a chance to prove it...
zulu-X-treme wrote:
Ummm time still happens doesnt it? It still moves the same way it did. Arent you just simply going faster than light? You wont see anything though (no light to illuminate surfaces). I dont understand how you can travel back in time if you go faster than the speed of light.
You may just see everything in slow motion if you go close to the speed of light, but if you would be going faster than the speed of light, then the light reflecting off surfaces to your eye wouldnt make it, because you are going faster than it, so you would in effect be blind? No way the human body would be able to handle those speeds anyway. Im sure your atoms will be ripped apart and you would simply vaporise
Apparently you can bend time. I dont know how though
Something to consider... If you move slower than the speed of light (which is all of us) then times goes forward wouldn't it be fair to say that if you moved faster than the speed of light time would go... Yes! then time would have to go backward... And moving at the speed of light exactly, then time would stand still? Einstein never had a chance to prove it...
Ummm time still happens doesnt it? It still moves the same way it did. Arent you just simply going faster than light? You wont see anything though (no light to illuminate surfaces). I dont understand how you can travel back in time if you go faster than the speed of light.
You may just see everything in slow motion if you go close to the speed of light, but if you would be going faster than the speed of light, then the light reflecting off surfaces to your eye wouldnt make it, because you are going faster than it, so you would in effect be blind? No way the human body would be able to handle those speeds anyway. Im sure your atoms will be ripped apart and you would simply vaporise
Apparently you can bend time. I dont know how though
speartackle
Senior Member
Geez, what a thread.
A small mention from me, and I could type until this forum is suspended.
Religion is often confused with belief. I do think that most believe in a creator, be it a force, a moment or even seen as deliberate. The fact is that belief keeps us secure as well all the while posing new questions, questions not necessarily brought about by doubt but by belief itself.
It is my opinion that religion (and don't get this confused with belief) was largely brought about by leaders, used as a means of controlling and influencing the masses, even to instill fears, thereby bringing about compliance. There is also the matter of raising taxes.
It is perhaps belief that led groups to lead their common man to take a direction into what we could call a religious group, they then commonly sharing religious beliefs.
I will refrain from getting into the matter of Church, its views and my feelings on all of that, save to say that it would be fairly arrogant and foolish for humans to think that life is limited to what we find on earth.
A small mention from me, and I could type until this forum is suspended.
Religion is often confused with belief. I do think that most believe in a creator, be it a force, a moment or even seen as deliberate. The fact is that belief keeps us secure as well all the while posing new questions, questions not necessarily brought about by doubt but by belief itself.
It is my opinion that religion (and don't get this confused with belief) was largely brought about by leaders, used as a means of controlling and influencing the masses, even to instill fears, thereby bringing about compliance. There is also the matter of raising taxes.
It is perhaps belief that led groups to lead their common man to take a direction into what we could call a religious group, they then commonly sharing religious beliefs.
I will refrain from getting into the matter of Church, its views and my feelings on all of that, save to say that it would be fairly arrogant and foolish for humans to think that life is limited to what we find on earth.
surfaMIKE wrote:
Yes Mike that is so true.. I have to agree with you on this!
Remember concorde?? The speed of light? Entering the sonic boom.. But still this was not fast enough to travel ahead of time..
secondly .. Yet no one knows are can tell us what happens to us when we pass away from the life.. We are merely going on belief brought down from generations threw out the years etc..
I believe we are a spirit trapped in a human body and when we die.. we pass to what we are within the human body in another form.
There is so many people worshiping stone gods .. objects etc.. etc.. It makes one think what really is the right answer ??
Wouldnt you travel in the future if you go faster than the speed of light? You skip the sunrise, so skip days, yet stay the same age?
Yes Mike that is so true.. I have to agree with you on this!
Remember concorde?? The speed of light? Entering the sonic boom.. But still this was not fast enough to travel ahead of time..
secondly .. Yet no one knows are can tell us what happens to us when we pass away from the life.. We are merely going on belief brought down from generations threw out the years etc..
I believe we are a spirit trapped in a human body and when we die.. we pass to what we are within the human body in another form.
There is so many people worshiping stone gods .. objects etc.. etc.. It makes one think what really is the right answer ??
speartackle
Senior Member
What would happen if you were travelling at the speed of light...and then put the headlights on?
Glenn wrote:
The concord could pass the speed of sound, but not the speed of light. Imagine if it could though? Would be interesting
Yup true, no-one knows, and there will only be one time where we will find the answer
Well, paganism is the oldest religion, so maybe there is something to kneeling before a tree and whispering to the bark? Must say pagans are more in touch with life and how energy is passed on
Im using paganism loosely here for nature worshipers, paganism in the dictionary means a religion not belonging to the mainstream religions
Religion came about when man was smart enough to ask the word "why?". When they couldnt think up answers, they turned to supernatural things like creators. "why am I here?" "what made me?" "who is that who made me?". Then they reckoned that if it was able to make something as great as the world, it should be very powerful, and have the ability to do harm, then they got scared, so worshipping and thanking the creator what they had came about, and so it evolved into what we have today. Origins of religion in a nutshell
Its beyond us to know 100% if there is a creator or not. The age old question: Who made us? God. So who made God? Na he was always there. Not good enough, there is a beginning to everything, and we want that answer, but will never get it, not alive atleast
surfaMIKE wrote:
Wouldnt you travel in the future if you go faster than the speed of light? You skip the sunrise, so skip days, yet stay the same age?
Yes Mike that is so true.. I have to agree with you on this!
Remember concorde?? The speed of light? Entering the sonic boom.. But still this was not fast enough to travel ahead of time..
secondly .. Yet no one knows are can tell us what happens to us when we pass away from the life.. We are merely going on belief brought down from generations threw out the years etc..
I believe we are a spirit trapped in a human body and when we die.. we pass to what we are within the human body in another form.
There is so many people worshiping stone gods .. objects etc.. etc.. It makes one think what really is the right answer ??
The concord could pass the speed of sound, but not the speed of light. Imagine if it could though? Would be interesting
Yup true, no-one knows, and there will only be one time where we will find the answer
Well, paganism is the oldest religion, so maybe there is something to kneeling before a tree and whispering to the bark? Must say pagans are more in touch with life and how energy is passed on
Im using paganism loosely here for nature worshipers, paganism in the dictionary means a religion not belonging to the mainstream religions
Religion came about when man was smart enough to ask the word "why?". When they couldnt think up answers, they turned to supernatural things like creators. "why am I here?" "what made me?" "who is that who made me?". Then they reckoned that if it was able to make something as great as the world, it should be very powerful, and have the ability to do harm, then they got scared, so worshipping and thanking the creator what they had came about, and so it evolved into what we have today. Origins of religion in a nutshell
Its beyond us to know 100% if there is a creator or not. The age old question: Who made us? God. So who made God? Na he was always there. Not good enough, there is a beginning to everything, and we want that answer, but will never get it, not alive atleast
speartackle wrote:
haha nothing. You would be blind anyway. No light to reflect off surfaces.What would happen if you were travelling at the speed of light...and then put the headlights on?
zulu-X-treme
Sealiner
What is interesting is that we are getting there, if we look at how fast information speeds along the internet and at how fast cell phones can transmit info back and forth, we are getting close to the speed of light, of course we would have to somehow be 'beamed' to where we want to be, something like Star Trek and the like. Essentially turning us into a string of 0's and 1's... I don't think a 64bit string or 128 or even a 256 bit string would be enough although...
WWFisherman
Senior Member
zulu-X-treme wrote:
I wouldn't be comfortable being beamed using a Telkom service. The connection would drop half-way.What is interesting is that we are getting there, if we look at how fast information speeds along the interent and at how fast cell phones can transmit info back and forth, we are getting close to the speed of light, of course we would have to somehow be 'beamed' to where we want to be, something like Star Trek and the like. Essentially turning us into a string of 0's and 1's... I don't think a 64bit string or 128 or even a 256 bit string would be enough although...
zulu-X-treme
Sealiner
Knowing Telkom you would arrive all 'messed up', legs where your arms are, stuff like that... lol. Something like that movie 'The Fly'. And like you said, would you even arrive, eternally stuck somewhere in Cyber-space. As long as I can get to Sealine, I'll be fine... lol.
Yes as the Old Man (Einstein) said - no solid/physical matter can reach the speed of light cos:
When you accelerate; your mass increases (I don't know...don't ask me)
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
When you accelerate; your mass increases
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
.....etc until at the speed of light your mass is infinite and the energy you need is infinite.
No can do ,he said
Got something to do with E=MC2
When you accelerate; your mass increases (I don't know...don't ask me)
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
When you accelerate; your mass increases
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
.....etc until at the speed of light your mass is infinite and the energy you need is infinite.
No can do ,he said
Got something to do with E=MC2
zulu-X-treme
Sealiner
Nice one PH, very, very well said.
PH wrote:
thats strange because light acts more like particles than waves, so, doesnt that make them solid matter? or atleast a little bit like solid matter?Yes as the Old Man (Einstein) said - no solid/physical matter can reach the speed of light cos:
When you accelerate; your mass increases (I don't know...don't ask me)
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
When you accelerate; your mass increases
When your mass increases you need more energy to keep on accelerating.
.....etc until at the speed of light your mass is infinite and the energy you need is infinite.
No can do ,he said
Got something to do with E=MC2
Now I put my foot in it LOL
You are probably right!
In the spirit of the lighthearted nature of the thread I only posted my interpretation of some of the "problems" of obtaining the speed of light (not taking into account the fact that time slows down) in a way.
I am no scientist and there was no expectation that my contribution should be scientifically analysed.
But please correct me if I'm wrong
You are probably right!
In the spirit of the lighthearted nature of the thread I only posted my interpretation of some of the "problems" of obtaining the speed of light (not taking into account the fact that time slows down) in a way.
I am no scientist and there was no expectation that my contribution should be scientifically analysed.
But please correct me if I'm wrong
Im no scientist either, and I might be completely out of wack with what I said haha
Light isnt really particles, but it isnt really waves either, but acts more like particles when compared to waves, so was just confused as why no solid matter can move the speed of light, when light itself takes up a particle nature
Light isnt really particles, but it isnt really waves either, but acts more like particles when compared to waves, so was just confused as why no solid matter can move the speed of light, when light itself takes up a particle nature
speartackle
Senior Member
That is not where this thread started or what it is about.
It is about life, or the lack thereof.
It is about life, or the lack thereof.
surfaMIKE wrote:
Sorry that was a miss type.. I did mean the speed of sound there.
Glenn wrote:surfaMIKE wrote:
Wouldnt you travel in the future if you go faster than the speed of light? You skip the sunrise, so skip days, yet stay the same age?
Yes Mike that is so true.. I have to agree with you on this!
Remember concorde?? The speed of light? Entering the sonic boom.. But still this was not fast enough to travel ahead of time..
secondly .. Yet no one knows are can tell us what happens to us when we pass away from the life.. We are merely going on belief brought down from generations threw out the years etc..
I believe we are a spirit trapped in a human body and when we die.. we pass to what we are within the human body in another form.
There is so many people worshiping stone gods .. objects etc.. etc.. It makes one think what really is the right answer ??
The concord could pass the speed of sound, but not the speed of light. Imagine if it could though? Would be interesting
Yup true, no-one knows, and there will only be one time where we will find the answer
Well, paganism is the oldest religion, so maybe there is something to kneeling before a tree and whispering to the bark? Must say pagans are more in touch with life and how energy is passed on
Im using paganism loosely here for nature worshipers, paganism in the dictionary means a religion not belonging to the mainstream religions
Religion came about when man was smart enough to ask the word "why?". When they couldnt think up answers, they turned to supernatural things like creators. "why am I here?" "what made me?" "who is that who made me?". Then they reckoned that if it was able to make something as great as the world, it should be very powerful, and have the ability to do harm, then they got scared, so worshipping and thanking the creator what they had came about, and so it evolved into what we have today. Origins of religion in a nutshell
Its beyond us to know 100% if there is a creator or not. The age old question: Who made us? God. So who made God? Na he was always there. Not good enough, there is a beginning to everything, and we want that answer, but will never get it, not alive atleast
Sorry that was a miss type.. I did mean the speed of sound there.
speartackle
Senior Member
Well, it seems is if you guys have all of the answers, why not then just start a new forum and leave the original as it was?