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 Posted: Fri Aug 10th, 2012 01:51 pm
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This is the tail. Sorry about the Pic.
The wind is looking good for bwb tomorrow. I will post a pic with it in the air. Its hard to take a desent pic with it now

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 Posted: Fri Aug 10th, 2012 01:55 pm
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 Posted: Sun Aug 12th, 2012 06:41 pm
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I use a 10 meter ski rope doubled up and depending on the wind strength tie a 500ml coke bottle to the bottom of it.This way u can add water to the bottle depending on wind speed to stabalise the kite.Also got my clips on ebay for less than 200 for two.Don't fish places with a lot of structure in between where u dropping and the beach.Because of the distance u can't lift ur sinker right up so u going to loose a lot of line.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 17th, 2012 07:36 am
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Hi guys
I haven't managed to get a line wet for 2 weeks now so I am planning on something over the weekend.
I have a quick question , I walked down to the harbour wall and it looked like a really nice spot. Is there a reason no one fishs there? Here is a pic of the water. What do u guys think. I remember seeing many raggies there when I dived there a long time ago

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 Posted: Sat Aug 18th, 2012 07:51 am
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Howsit man if I'm not mistaken u not allowed fishing of the harbour anymore.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 18th, 2012 07:54 am
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Hi
I am not going to fish off the wall , I want to fish of the beach next to the wall. Looks like some good structure and such

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 Posted: Mon Sep 17th, 2012 07:16 pm
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AntV wrote: Hi
I am not going to fish off the wall , I want to fish of the beach next to the wall. Looks like some good structure and such

We pulled MONSTERS there back in the day !! Biggest Spearnose Skates you ever seen, LARGE Rags and those insane things you just never know what it was !!

Only issue you gunna have is controlling whatever you hook. To your left the wall that you are prohibited from accessing and to your right, one of the most 'popular' beaches in PE. Will surely raise all kinds of hell pulling lines through all the bathers, kite surfers, Jet Ski and Ducking crews.

Got in touch with Dave Skinner again, hooked me up with a Windsong for a song. Managed to get it launched out my back yard with little hassle. Put it out to 800m and it was strong and steady. Gunna practice the intricacies of tacking tomorrow.. Anyone in the Mount Pleasant area - keep a lookout for the Windsong with the LONG yellow tail...

Must hook up for a session soon..

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howsit Antv

Catch anything on the kite setup yet? Myself and buddy also want to try it out now.

Keen to meetup with u n see how its done

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 Posted: Thu Sep 20th, 2012 07:12 am
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Hi
I wish I could say that I have been catchings loads of fish but luck hasn't been on my side...I have been bitten of twice by something huge but other than that all I have had is let downs. My main failing is that kite fishing is a 2 man operation and my fishing buddy keeps letting me down and going awol so I end up sliding. I tried doing it solo a few times but always ends in disaster. Summmer has come now to pe and I really am keen to get fishing.
I have a good feeling about the habour wall , I remember diving there and seeing huge rags but as you say the surfers might not be happy with me.
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I am looking to buy a kite, in this month’s Tight Lines Magazine there’s an  article on kites Has any one used this kite before I like the idea that it can fly straight downwind, 70 degrees to the left or right.

The Seagull Kite

The Seagull is the latest kite by Mullers' Kitefishing. It can fly straight downwind, 70 degrees to the left or right, or anything in between, giving it a 180 degrees fishing range.

The Seagull works in winds from 15 to 45km/h.

It works best with the bait ferry, but you can start kitefishing with only this kite on its own.

http://www.mullerskitefishing.com/index.htm

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Imfeni wrote: I am looking to buy a kite, in this month’s Tight Lines Magazine there’s an  article on kites Has any one used this kite before I like the idea that it can fly straight downwind, 70 degrees to the left or right.

The Seagull Kite

The Seagull is the latest kite by Mullers' Kitefishing. It can fly straight downwind, 70 degrees to the left or right, or anything in between, giving it a 180 degrees fishing range.

The Seagull works in winds from 15 to 45km/h.

It works best with the bait ferry, but you can start kitefishing with only this kite on its own.

http://www.mullerskitefishing.com/index.htm

Ek het al baie met my  seagull kite gevang en moet se dat ek nogal teleurgestel is met die kite,hy het al twee keer geskeur sonder dat die wind baie sterk was en vir een of ander rede sal hy baie stabiel wees en vir n halfuur mooi vlieg en dan ewe skielik net mal gaan en in die see beland,as jy vir jouself baie stress wil spaar kry vir jou n windsong kite

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 Posted: Thu Oct 18th, 2012 08:13 am
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Dankie vir advies

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 Posted: Thu Oct 18th, 2012 02:35 pm
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Over time I have either owned, or at present, own most of the kites that is sensible for kite-fishing. Although I have neglected kite-fishing for some time,my ''go-to'' kite would any day be a Windsong.It is easy to fly,easy to tack to sensible angles, where it still has enough pulling power for your bait and lead,and even if you buy three different sizes to cater for all wind-speeds still relatively cheap.(probably wont need more than two)

You will be amazed what you can actually do with a square kite if you ''manipulated'' it a bit.Lets say the wind is not exactly in your favour even after maximum tacking of the bridle and the tail .

 A simple exercise would be to fly it out to 400 meters(if you want to fish at 300m).Then in ''harmony/tandem'' with your buddy holding the fishing rod,you wind back like hell on preferably the Scarborough that you are flying the kite on.Meter for meter your buddy with the fishing-pole,must try and keep up ,but not wind faster than you or else the tension will release your clip.

The Kite(even a square kite will veer severely ''into''the direction of the wind due to the added pressure.I wont say 70degrees into the wind,(certain things are just not scientifically plausible),but you will be amazed. All that your buddy now has to do is take up slack and strike a couple of times if necessary when your bait is at the desired angle,hopefully in front of you,and your bait should drop.

You will soon get a feel or even clearly see when the kite is at its max angle into the wind.(it should ''hover''or ''tail-dance''.This would be optimum for the ''drop''.I recommend that you use a slightly longer than usual ski-rope or onion-bag tail for this exercise,as even a very stable square kite can do a ''loop''.

Bear in mind that this optimum position cannot be held for any length of time,maybe a couple of seconds,so timing of the ''drop'' is critical.

Lastly ,upon release ,depending on how much pressure the ''fisher-man'' in this scenario has applied before release,the kite-line could have some slack in it,or alternatively ''climb''at a very very rapid rate,or want to ''loop''.The kite-flyer must be at the ready to wind like hell,or pay out line if any signs of the kite ''looping'' appears

.Dont be afraid to pay out line at this time as it can be retrieved at a more ''gentle''pace after it has ''stabilised''

Sorry if it sounds elaborate,but it's sometimes difficult to put some things into words.Just sit down and think about it for a moment or two before launching,it is actually quite a simple manouvre.

Just 2c :wfish

 

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Hey Kitefisher.

I want to have my quick release clip at set height.
i see there many opinions on how high to fly.

im thinking about setting it somewhere between 70m and 80m.
will that be high enough?? or should i go to 100m?

i should also mention that i have the mullers seagull kite.

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metroFail wrote:
Hey Kitefisher.

I want to have my quick release clip at set height.
i see there many opinions on how high to fly.

im thinking about setting it somewhere between 70m and 80m.
will that be high enough?? or should i go to 100m?

i should also mention that i have the mullers seagull kite.


Hey Metro

First off,I also own a Muller's Seagull,and I am not dissing them at all.When I bought, many years ago the service and enthusiasm was great.By ''go-to''I merely meant ease of use for me personally.

To get back to your question regarding the height of your dropper,just so there's no confusion.Do you mean 70-80/100 meters away from your kite??

If that is the case then just briefly.It is not always possible to judge how high the kite will fly once the bait and lead is attached to the clip,it will depend on the windstrength and bait-weight.Ideally I would assume that your clip is at such a position in order for the bait-load to not fall itself to smithereens upon release.
Please just rephrase if I misunderstood your question.
Cheers.

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oops sorry

Yeah i ment distance from the kite with regards to the dropper.
as for weighting etc. im planning to do it new zealand style with a weighted bottle to keep it down.
Similar to this idea from Paul's site: fishingkites.co.nz with the drop line and all that. but in place of the "clip on weight" in the picture have my release clip and weight bottle.
i guess i should fly it 100m up if i plan on doing that?

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I cant open the exact link,but I have been to this site many years ago and have a fair idea of what you intend to do(longlining of sorts).A 100 meters is always a good amount of line to get the kite into a ''clean'' wind.Wind-directions can differ significantly at different heights.Take a bit of time (10minutes) to study what the kite is doing at your intended height.

Good luck.I am not sure if there are any RSA-legislation regarding the use of multiple (as in 10/15 or more) hooks for fishing from shore,but iT does look interesting the way some of the NZ guys do it.

Enjoy.

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Thanks kitefisher that makes sense.
i will edit the link
i have a kestrel 2500 weather station to keep tabs on the wind.
i dont plan on long lining, legislation says you are only allowed 5 hooks on a line here in SA, on a recreational license.
but the methods used in NZ seemed a more robust way of doing things.
the mullers kite video where they dropped a bait seemed very hap-hazards affair.
the method used in Paul's kite fishing encylopedia seemed like a better way of doing things.

I guess i can set and anchor point at 70/80m from the kite and have multiple drop lines of different lengths to a release clip and counter weight. to compensate for changes in "clean winds"

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Not one system is absolute.Go ahead and make it up as you go along,experiment,fiddle twist ,jiggle,laugh a lot,and above all have fun.We have this perception that once you fly a kite,you immediately have to catch the biggest fish around, otherwise you may as well have casted and slided a bait out.Not true,its just another way of catching fish and many a game fish have been caught on kite,purely because of the 250meter distance that gets you behind backline.Trust me 250 will most likely be way beyond most backline's.

Gather a couple of guys and offer to drop their baits(without guarantees)hahaha,and get them going,while you experiment.



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And experiment i shall.

if the weather wasnt so crap i could go and test fly my kite this weekend.

i have been testing release clip break weights by lifting full quarts of black label as thats one of the only things i have of similar weight to a shark bait and i have quite a quantity of quarts as a student. its a pretty nerve-wracknig affair.
I have a 12 inch KP with 1500m of 140lb braid to fly my kite, big thanks DHgate.com for making braid affordable!!

im going to put everything to the test, and hopefully i will have a nice report about a large shark in a few weeks time

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