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 Posted: Mon Aug 6th, 2012 08:28 pm
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Geewizard
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Hi
Can anyone advise me what species of fish I should be targeting at the end september and early October at Umgazi.
Will not have a boat and will be walking that stretch of coastline with my 2 youngsters. looking to make it an awesome experience for all of us.
The kit we will be using is 7' Nexaves with grinders.
what is best? Braid or nylon? plastic lures, poppers, spinners...ect.
Is it worthwhile to take my fly rig and kit?

Would really appreciate some advice on this area.

Gary

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 Posted: Tue Aug 7th, 2012 06:11 am
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RobG
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Morning Geewizard,

I am already jealous. Definately take your fly rod for the river!

The locals there are good and can put you onto fish on both the beach and the river. Take a cast net with you and prawn pump. Give them to the guide and u are sorted for bait etc.

I love that place!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 7th, 2012 06:31 am
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stuart haynes
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Hey.
That place is my favorite place in the world. If you get a gillie ask for William if he is still there he's will sort you out. Also as long as the mouth is open you can catch and fish in that river, iv caught shad, garrick, kob, grunter and more. Then for spinning there are a set of rocks called "the gully" very nice for spinning etc. Flat rocks is also great with some nice fish there. Then for spiining about 100m before flat rocks is a small rock a single rock throw some spoons and plugs and there are tons of kob and garrick...then for fly walk along the beach past flat rocks to ungazana there you can't miss...take the kids too and they will also catch. Or another nice thing is to hire a boat and go upriver and try for some kob as there used to be a big drop try there. If you have any more questions ask and I will try awnser. Otherwise enjoy the trip, the foods great and the people too.
Hope this help
Stuart

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 Posted: Tue Aug 7th, 2012 08:11 pm
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Thanks a mil for all the info Stuart and RobG.
Will definitely use your advice.
Which fly patterns work well there?
How well do plastic baits, like paddle tails and cammo worm, work?


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 Posted: Thu Aug 9th, 2012 04:41 pm
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Hey. Sorry for the late response I caught most on Chartruse jerkshad from berkley, cammo worm works every where there, in the surf depending on conditions and if the cob are arround paddle tails should work. I went in augest so things may be different try some smaller flies like crazy charlies and for grunter I saw Some caught on a shrimp pattern. I hope this helps. Also speak to the gillies and try get William.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 10th, 2012 02:11 pm
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I was there about 2 years ago. Fishing was not too good, but caught a nice bronse breem and some blacktail. On the river I managed a good sized springer (just lucky as I saw it and cast a prawn bait down it's throat), but i guess they can be good fun on a fly rod...

 

Get a gillie, they are very good and knows the best spots, bait etc.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 11th, 2012 11:07 am
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Hi guys
thanks  again for the information. Really looking forward to this trip.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2012 02:23 pm
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:fbash

Hi I was there for almost two weeks in Dec 2011, and the fishing was Terrible, tried everywhere even Poenskop, 3rd beach all over, took my boat with but did not even put it in the water, the river was running two strong and in flood, there is any way too much sandbanks in the river for boats, its not the river everyone says it is, was really disappointed in the fishing the camping site was great, Cremorne Seaside River Resort and the people are great.
Port saint johns is also not what it use to be in the 80ā€™sā€™90ā€™s it really run down nothing to do there for the family, and you might be shocked when you go there

Sorry for all the negative feedback but some people travel far to be shocked when they get there.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2012 02:24 pm
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Here is there web http://www.wheretostay.co.za/cremornesc/

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 Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2012 06:53 pm
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Hi Geewizard

Not gonna give you the whole run down here , when you actually just need to make 1 phone call !

Phone Chad Alcock - I dont know of anyone who has fished that area more than him and he will be able to advise as to fishing spots , lures , tackle needed , and tides.

His number is 041 - 3656868 , I know he will gladly assist where he can !

I know you can hire boats etc at Umgazi - which can be of great help for the estuary fishing

Regards

BB

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 Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2012 12:29 am
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Hi Geewizard
IF you going here,
http://www.sa-venues.com/visit/umngaziriverbungalows/rates.php total diferent story to PSJ its self this is a beautiful place and there a gillies by the hotel that will help the boys fish in the river by the hotel, and is stunning there.:ifishin:ifishin

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 Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2012 04:56 pm
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That is exactly where i am going. one week of fishing by order of the wife^^..::Shope to be catching plenty fish:wfishand big ones. Catch, take pictures and release.

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