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 Posted: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 05:24 pm
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Hi all.
Got mself a seagull kite from Mullers today and also a 11.5"kp filled with 0,8mm perline. I just took the kite out today on a field and it flew like a charm in about a 20km/h wind. I must say that the KP worked fine (today).

My question:
Will the 0.8mm line not snap due to the high tension. The line was singing all sorts of melodies in the wind and it sounded like it was near the point of breaking. Can the line hold such mention and what happens if you drop your bait, Will the sudden increase in tension in the line not cause the line to pop as the kite shoots up in the sky.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 08:11 pm
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Hey howsit christo firstly I wouldn't fly my kite with 0.8mm on a KP,rather get some cheap 80 or 100lb braid and use that, better for wind resistance. I've flown a medium windsong kite a few times in gale winds with just a diawa 900h reel and 0.6mm bigame. I simply use a 10m 5mm skei rope tail with my kite and then put a light sinker on the bottom 2-4oz just to stabilize the kite and give it more pull. The most pull I'll go for is about 5kg's. Basically the longer you make your tail the more drag it creates and hence the kite will fly higher and pull less.

Have you bought a release clip yet?

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Still don't know why you bough a Seagull

you have to trim and tack the kite so it flies strong enough to take a bait out but never to much tension on the line.

If you want to set it up to pull taught like a guitar string then use 100kg braid and get your forearms looking like Popeye's to haul the kite in.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 05:19 am
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The thing that got me from the seagull was "flying almost into the wind". I must say that it flies like a charm and was quite easy. I got the release clip but is also going to use a svivel like we did at st francis.

I can get cheap 100lb braid (think it is that PE spectra) 1000m for R600 so I am thinking about ir rather than the 0.8 as their is way to much lention on the line. Luckally you can add a safety line in the kite so this is the first thing that is going to pop and it should not be the 0.8mm.

I will later buy some of those smaller kites that you have Craig but we normally pack up when the wind is stronger (mooi weer visserman).

And ja... I am working on the popeye's forearms.

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the mullers kite are for med wind. in stong wind the kite is to strong. there release clip are the best and drop every time. make your sinker line almost as long as your rig NOT SHORT AS THEY SAY. Get some smaller kites for when the wind is very strong. Like the other authors mention. Make your tail longer in stronger wind. The best line would be 80lb braid. Get the best you can afford. The cheep 80lb braid snapped in very strong wind. I would put 1.1 or 1.2mm topshot to give a little tretch when the wind picks up or there are gust's.

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and get yourself a TLD 50 2 speed reel. The KP will give you ***.

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Good advise Neville.

I don't know how their release works but always find that a loop fixed halfway up the leader then the weight and bait is at least 4m below the kite line and risk of tangling in the release is almost Zero

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 Posted: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 08:15 pm
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TLD is gonna be out for a while he's a livebait fisherman and a newly qualified teacher getting married so there is ZERO budget for a TLD unless someone wants to give him a wedding present

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 Posted: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 08:25 pm
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Enigma wrote:
TLD is gonna be out for a while he's a livebait fisherman and a newly qualified teacher getting married so there is ZERO budget for a TLD unless someone wants to give him a wedding present

HAHAHA. Dis nou bleddie goed opgesom. Dankie Craig.

Took the kite out again today in a +/-30km/h wind on a field with the 0.8mm and tried to break the safety line (0.4) and the mainline (0,8) while the kite was in the air but it still worked fine. I also tied 5 x 7 ounce sinkers to my fishing setup which acted as bait to test the release clip. It worked like a charm but the weight was way too light as the kite took all the sinkers in the air.

Hopefully we can go and test it Saturday at van stadens as the northerly wind almost blows their every morning so it will give us a chance to drop those big yellowtail and kob heads way behind the backline.

Thanks for all the advice so far

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Works like a charm
It works the same way as we did it with the swivel at st francis with the bait cotton but the great thing is that you can adjust the tension by simply bending the metal wire section. This increases the amount of pressure needed before the bait is released. Another good thing is the cost.... R20 as per their website.

I used the same loop on my leader which you showed me by using insolation tape and then hook the loop onto the clip and it works like a dream. Tested it about 4 times today with all those sinkers attached and every time like a bom.

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This photo is from the DVD that they supply with the kite which is very helpful and well set out.

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make your rig and sinker line almost the same length. It will not tangle and will drop every time. Good luck and please let us know how it goes at van stadens. I have not fish that area before. How good is it for big sharks??

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What kite would you guys recommend for strong winds?
I have a mullers but hardly get to use it because on the few occasions the wind here does blow in the right direction it usually to strong and my yellow tail, 9oz sinker and 2l bottle of water go straight up!

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Windsong standard single line kite. I have a storm kite that I can fly in 120km hour winds

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 Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 06:54 pm
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nevillebarnard wrote:
make your rig and sinker line almost the same length. It will not tangle and will drop every time. Good luck and please let us know how it goes at van stadens. I have not fish that area before. How good is it for big sharks??

I "grew up" at van stadens so it is my favorite spot. Big sharks..... YES. Let me put it this way. If their is fish, then THEIR IS FISH but the opposite is also true. In one evening we managed to hook 12 sharks on a single spot between three of us but we only managed to land 4 (if I remember correctly). I also managed to hook 3 "unstoppable" fish which gave me a propper hiding in one evening on galjoen heads and yellowtail heads on a trini30.

will let you know if we manage to send the kite out this weekend there but the wind seems not to be in our favor.

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First bait that is going out.... a head from a 20kg tail (the same head that went into the water for 3 trips but nothing seems to be big enough to eat it so....... DEEPER WATER)

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Christo en sy kite op die vlakkie:fbash

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Took the kite out yesterday to van stadens only to get there to find a very rough sea with no wind. Later on we managed to get the kite in the air with about a 10km/h SE wind which means that the kite was in the air but the wrong direction..... The kite was over the dunes and not over the lip. HAHA. We checked how far it will go so we managed to strip the 11.5" KP's 900m of 0.8 line.

It was still quite fun but next time we hoe to get it in the right direction with some baits attached to it.

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How do you guys do it with bait cotton?I am maybe looking at getting the aftco one as the one i have now does work but it takes a bit of time to get the setting right.

What problems have you guys had with KP's if I may ask as ive never had a problem with mine?I have heard of a spool cracking once but have heard of that happening to multipliers as well.

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