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THE BEST CASTING LIGHT MULTIPLIER REEL ?  Rating:  Rating
 
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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 10:57 am
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dswart wrote: Although a couple of guys are using a 15/30 on the shorter rods - it is to heavy and will not balance a lighter rod. Plus the fact that ideally the 15/30 only start preforming with a 5 ounce sinker and up. Yes you can through lighter sinkers on a 12 foot rod for instance but you will not get the distance as with a 15/30 and a longer rod. Especially if you mag the reel.

My suggestion will be in your budged range a SL30SH - just wash it after each outing and service the bearing reguarly. Takes enough line...

What rod where you thinking of getting?


My 1st choice without any hesitation wil be a Purglas 12ft /1 or /2 but James made my kop somer deurmekaar with a couple of other options he gave me the other night, he has a BM Garrick and it is a very nice little rod, but now the thing is i wanna have it custom made and in a 1 piece format so i dont see the use of buying a rod and then customising it after i have bought it!

Do u think the sl 30 would handle nicely on the reefs?

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 11:08 am
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kliphard wrote:
Do u think the sl 30 would handle nicely on the reefs?


Look the sl30sh has more bearings than the 15/30. Thus the reason for me saying that you must take care of the reel. Although my sl30sh have been swimming a couple of times before I had it serviced. But I take care of my reel afterwards i.e. I leave it in a bucket of luke warm water for and hour or two after each session and give the reel a oil on the bearings. And this seems to work. No bearing ever made like sea water.

On the rods side:
1. A stroke 1 or 2 purglass is an excellent choice because of the thicker walls of the blank. Thus taking the knocks of the reefs a bit better.
2. I have played with Enigma's little Oval DC a couple of times and if he had the blanks when I spoken to him I most probably had one of these rods.
3. Blue Marlin has a 12.6 rappie rod - excellent. I have played with this rod as well a couple of times.
4. The proper Assassin Baby 12.6 is also a good little rod.
5. Nothing can beat the Shimano Exhage 11 foot.
6. The old Loomis and Franklin 12.6 two peace rod is also very nice.

Number 2 to 6 is all three piece rods. Maybe Enigma can build you an Oval DC oval - do not know if he has the one piece blanks though...

Nothing wrong with a three piece rods...

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 11:19 am
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Correction Nr 2,4,5 and 6 are 2 piece rods not sure about nr 3 but I suspect a 2 piece as well.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 11:25 am
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Sorry all piece rods - the proper Assasson baby was always a three piece

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 06:30 pm
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I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish

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I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 07:04 pm
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Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2014 07:08 pm
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I had a 350/1.... I sold it and still miss it.. My new gallie rod is the
Blue marlin Rappie. 10'6... Its a freakin minni monster of a rod. Perfect for gallies and is awesome for fishing in the rocks with braid.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 22nd, 2014 06:51 am
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Enigma wrote:
I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish
Thanks Craig, that puts the compression matter to rest as expexted - I just didn't want to take any expensive chances as the use of braid is unchartered territory for me !

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stinkmossel wrote:
Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight. Hi Stinkmossel - I often fish the stretch of beach between Suiderstrand and Brandfontein on foot and mostly use my little 110H with either SL20SH ot Torium 14 and 4oz plus bait, but from time to time, I find really nice working water just outside the comfort range of the 110H (over 130 meters for me) and for those occasions, I carry my Poseidon 13"6' 3-piece along just in its bag stuck into my backpack. It is extremely lightweigt, but with the few 5oz sinkers I carry for just this application, it is a very good longrange caster as long as the little gallie reel can keep up and you keep the bait compact an even clip it for extra streamling if needed. I used to carry my SL30SH along as well and the swopped rod and reel around( I normally use the Poseidon/ SL30SH/5oz fot steenies), but lately - try to pack lighter for the long walk and do not pack the larger reel as in the past. So this is my reason for making sure that the next compact little gallie reel I get, is also up to the task of doing this double duty that my Torium 14 and SL20SH is currently doing.I do the same thing, walking along the coast from Odendalspunt (Blombos) down the beach.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 22nd, 2014 07:18 am
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Now for a complete curve ball- if enigma still has them, the vmax rod i have will do all the above with ease, and so far it has take all the knocks i have had. Custom it will be less than the blanks of the others?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 22nd, 2014 11:00 am
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Cuban Cigar wrote:
stinkmossel wrote:
Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight. Hi Stinkmossel - I often fish the stretch of beach between Suiderstrand and Brandfontein on foot and mostly use my little 110H with either SL20SH ot Torium 14 and 4oz plus bait, but from time to time, I find really nice working water just outside the comfort range of the 110H (over 130 meters for me) and for those occasions, I carry my Poseidon 13"6' 3-piece along just in its bag stuck into my backpack. It is extremely lightweigt, but with the few 5oz sinkers I carry for just this application, it is a very good longrange caster as long as the little gallie reel can keep up and you keep the bait compact an even clip it for extra streamling if needed. I used to carry my SL30SH along as well and the swopped rod and reel around( I normally use the Poseidon/ SL30SH/5oz fot steenies), but lately - try to pack lighter for the long walk and do not pack the larger reel as in the past. So this is my reason for making sure that the next compact little gallie reel I get, is also up to the task of doing this double duty that my Torium 14 and SL20SH is currently doing.I do the same thing, walking along the coast from Odendalspunt (Blombos) down the beach.



In that case, im using the Penn squall 25.. Its the beat casting/ lightweight reel i have ever used! Not to fond of swimming though.... Pricing is great. 130m is a piece of cake

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Howsit Guys,

I am planning to scratch the gullys and cast over rocky reefs with :

Saltist BG20H and Exage 100M ...2-3oz and bait
Saltist BG30H and Exage 110H....3-4oz and bait

Am i on the right track in regards with rod and reel matching ?......
with those sinker weights?

Just to add .....i am using mono line.

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My setup is Exage 110H with either Tor14 or the old gold Trini 14.....one loaded with HMP 8 - 75 lbs the other with Sufix 832 80 lbs.........I have the X30SHA with the Sufix 832, which also works a treat on the Exage 110H. Both reels have Mag-it so I can open my shoulders from time to time.
I also use a Exage 110H which I have had custom extended by 1 foot.

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Hi Derash !
I prefer the narrower Daiwa 20 size#, as long as you stick to thinner diam nylon or preferably braid(in my case)...so that the line column, does not shrink too much on a long cast, effectively bringing down your actual inches per handle crank, retrieve.

I find it easier to spool the line neatly on a narrow spool, when cranking like crazy, to get terminal tackle to clear the refs and bricks.

The narrow spooled reels, also cast the lightest sinker weights better, as most of the weight of the spool, is in the core part and not the flanges, so a narrower spool. weighs substantially less than the same spool in wider format .... thus having lower start-up inertia,making spinning up the light spool easier with light sinker weights .... lighter spools also don't overspin so easily and thus easier to control against overwinds !

On a thin gripped rod like 100M and 110H, I prefer tha balance and look of the narrower reel.

My 5 cents worth ...
Cheers !

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Excellent discussion guys.....

I found one of those Pentagon Lights and paired it with a Surf 30, (which cannot be magged as per CC, who suggested to fit double break blocks), however one set standard is fitted.
The rod and reel balance well.
My migration to braid by suggestions from Enigma using that yellow 75lb HMP sounds like a good idea _seal1_

The bothersome issue is the tip eye, and even a Bob sands passes with a noise. My option to go with Grootvis se suggestion.....and fish it straight to swivel is an option not yet considered. Thanks Don ;)

Second opsie....get that oogie ge~change!!

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Good discussion .

If you have a chance , get one of these .

https://www.seigler.fish/products/sm?variant=33116360846


_ This IS the best casting light multiplier !!!

- unfortunately not available in SA.

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I started as a child with a spinning reel, by 11 wanted desperately to use a multiplier.
By 12 had an Ambassadeur 8000C that I still have.
From there "regressed" to fixed spool reels.
Then recently took an interest in using smaller high performance multipliers along the size range of a SL20.
I managed to obtain 2 Omoto Chief Extreme reels; a 5000 sized reel (go onto face book and look up 3bar distance - Will Nash is pushing some SERIOUS distances with his custom Will Power versions) and a 6000 sized reel.
Both are 6.3:1 so should be fast enough for actual fishing, with all the go-faster bits and bobs.
Holy **** can they cast.
I have had the reels for about 8 weeks now and practice as often as I can (my local park is now no longer suitable as it is too small even with itty-bity 45g sinkers)
My target is to reach 200m with 125g.
Progress is being made:
Had a good session today and with both 125g and 100g on my 12' Oval DC 2-5oz.
I managed a couple of 182m casts.
Worst cast was 161m and it was a real duffer, I knew I had done a chit job
180m casts were measured with 2 range finders so no BS.
Damn they are superb.


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Psy wrote
The bothersome issue is the tip eye, and even a Bob sands passes with a noise. My option to go with Grootvis se suggestion.....and fish it straight to swivel is an option not yet considered.


Psy,

What sort of issues are you having with the tip eye?
I have no noise or clunking with .35mm mono to .70mm mono leaders through a size 8 tip top.

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T-H

I will need to check the eye number size (will that be stamped on it?) the insert is rather thickish,they are all Fuji as the rod was built by Gremlins, so no nonsense fitted....however even a single Bob Sands labours at the tip.....so that I am forced to fish a short mono/braid leader keeping it clear of the tip for casting.

My route will/might be to get the eye changed out :?

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