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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2014 11:13 am
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I though this was illegal?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/record-breaking-great-white-shark-3398929

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2014 11:24 am
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Williaby wrote: I though this was illegal?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/record-breaking-great-white-shark-3398929

It is. The article is not very informative though. Guys, correct me if I am wrong, but when they ID the shark as a GW, they must cut the line. It looks like they were in no hurry to do that.... 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2014 11:47 am
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RobinF wrote: Williaby wrote: I though this was illegal?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/record-breaking-great-white-shark-3398929

It is. The article is not very informative though. Guys, correct me if I am wrong, but when they ID the shark as a GW, they must cut the line. It looks like they were in no hurry to do that.... 
The clarity:

“We knew we had a chance of catching a Great White. “When we were out there, with bait in the water, the sharks were circling the boat, with the fins all around us.

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If he is an SA citizen, he may well be in hot water.

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This Andy Hales should be extradited back to SA to give answers.I think this is going to get interesting.

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http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/4000lb-Great-White-boated/

When you fishing a 800lb wire hooklink u not fishing for mako's or blue dogs....

As always... Have Nice Day...

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MASTERBAIT wrote:
This Andy Hales should be extradited back to SA to give answers.I think this is going to get interesting.

see this is where it all starts, no facts only speculation

masterbait - what would your comment be if he was invited by the parks board to catch one legally for scientific purposes

Lets talk fact guys and leave the "just post something to say" out of it

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Simon here's some facts for you.

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The Warwickshire-angler was fishing alongside Fosters of Birmingham tackle shop owner Richard Foster, when the duo took a break from fishing for yellow fin tuna to target some of the number of shark species which had also been attracted to the area they were fishing from off the southern most point of Cape Agulhas in South Africa.

A tuna head mounted on a size 14/0 hook that then taken by the shark that measured over 18 feet in length, and Andy was eventually able to win the mammoth two-hour fight with the help of a 120lb class Shimano rod, an 800lb wire hooklink and 130lb mainline.
“It’s illegal to specifically Great Whites in South Africa, but the huge predator grabbed the bait that we had put out for one of the other species of shark that are in abundance in these waters.” Richard told Angling Times."

http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/4000lb-Great-White-boated/

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True .....sorry

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PatrickC wrote:
Simon here's some facts for you.

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The Warwickshire-angler was fishing alongside Fosters of Birmingham tackle shop owner Richard Foster, when the duo took a break from fishing for yellow fin tuna to target some of the number of shark species which had also been attracted to the area they were fishing from off the southern most point of Cape Agulhas in South Africa.

A tuna head mounted on a size 14/0 hook that then taken by the shark that measured over 18 feet in length, and Andy was eventually able to win the mammoth two-hour fight with the help of a 120lb class Shimano rod, an 800lb wire hooklink and 130lb mainline.
“It’s illegal to specifically Great Whites in South Africa, but the huge predator grabbed the bait that we had put out for one of the other species of shark that are in abundance in these waters.” Richard told Angling Times."

http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/4000lb-Great-White-boated/


From the same article: "When it took off and began to tow the boat we knew exactly what Andy had hooked."

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"Andy’s huge predator is one of several captures that would break the current line-caught record, but due to the complicated claim procedures that are required by the IGFA these fish are given an estimated weight and safely released."

Can one even claim a record for an illegal catch?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2014 12:28 pm
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found this pic of andy fighting the Shark...eishhh

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I put it to you, what do you see is wrong in this picture????:?

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The coastline isn't cape point?

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If it was not killed than i cant see any harm done!

There are guys that catch them on a daily basis but we just dont here about it, but yet again if it is not killed than there should not be a problem.

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If it was not killed than i cant see any harm done!

There are guys that catch them on a daily basis but we just dont here about it, but yet again if it is not killed than there should not be a problem.

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And that's how the fight started...

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It's one thing accidentally hooking a great white whilst fishing for bronzies or flat fish like anglers regularly do from the False Bay beaches or the Gordon's Bay mountain, but specifically targeting a great white, bringing it up to the boat, taking pictures and BEST OF ALL running to the media about catching the shark illegally in South Africa is just plain out arrogance!

Andy admits that they knew they could catch a great white, they were out with a South African skipper who damn well would know it's great whites circling the boat plus that tackle is by no means "normal" shark tackle.

Lastly, I hope there are better pictures out there as that does not look even close to 6m...

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No the law says he is not allowed to be in possession of the shark and he got it to the boat cut it off and released it so he never had the intention of possessing it.

The Mosselbay case was different in that the angler Gaffed the shark and dragged it bleeding a further 4m out onto the rocks.

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the coast line looks alot like pivilion so they could have been close to the island near there

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Enigma wrote:
No the law says he is not allowed to be in possession of the shark and he got it to the boat cut it off and released it so he never had the intention of possessing it.

The Mosselbay case was different in that the angler Gaffed the shark and dragged it bleeding a further 4m out onto the rocks.


Craig please read the verdict on Beertjie's case again... He was found guilty of contravening that act... Wich includes "purposefully attempting to catch". The equipment he used was also found to show he was purposefully attempting to catch. He was not just found guilty on posession.

Same could be said here, even with much more clarity.

All I have to say on this matter.

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