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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 05:45 pm
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shagnrelease
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benniejordaan wrote: Sealine is a forum... not a tackle shop.

I agree, although a great place to market and generate an income for the upkeep of Sealine, I believe we should not dilute what has proven to be a succesfull forum??

I also sell tackle amongst other things, and also get uptight when I feel I am getting ripped by the wholesalers, but by and large there are a lot of costs involved with some of the bigger guys, volume based ordering ,logistics and financing slow moving lines, lets face it, in a perfect world we would all love to have a full stock turn around in 60 days?? And the guys that are pulling the ring out of it will have there day, trust me. But I digress, we need the guys to advertise on the site to generate an income and the guys which dont contribute either through advertising or direct benefit to sealine members should not be allowed the free punt, I am guilty of this too as I have also indirectly advertised some items(;)did not help much still no sportsfisher in costa rica) but we certainly would not be doing our advertisers any good by cutting them out, why would they need to run there own focused sites? We would be diluting there interests and the ideals which Sealine was founded on.

We get pounded everyday with specials, limited offers and pressure purchases, I dont want to have that while chilling in front of Sealine...I have other sites for that.

 

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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 06:04 pm
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benniejordaan
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Ya, I didn't say all I wanted to say but basically last time I checked, the advertisers/sposors who generally are tackle dealers were paying for the upkeep. The upkeep of a site that the memers are now discussing how to cut them off.

Just an opinion. I am not a tackle dealer but I can understand how it would make them feel when they are paying good money to have their companies advertised.

I agree with SnR.
This is a place to chill and talk about fishing.

Last edited on Tue Aug 25th, 2009 06:06 pm by benniejordaan

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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 06:46 pm
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Reefman
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shagnrelease wrote: benniejordaan wrote: Sealine is a forum... not a tackle shop.

I agree, although a great place to market and generate an income for the upkeep of Sealine, I believe we should not dilute what has proven to be a succesfull forum??

I also sell tackle amongst other things, and also get uptight when I feel I am getting ripped by the wholesalers, but by and large there are a lot of costs involved with some of the bigger guys, volume based ordering ,logistics and financing slow moving lines, lets face it, in a perfect world we would all love to have a full stock turn around in 60 days?? And the guys that are pulling the ring out of it will have there day, trust me. But I digress, we need the guys to advertise on the site to generate an income and the guys which dont contribute either through advertising or direct benefit to sealine members should not be allowed the free punt, I am guilty of this too as I 
 


Finally someone sees what Admin has to see every day. The number of freeloaders on Sealine is increasing exponentially. Daily we have to delete several messages with guys taking cheap shots at advertizing their goods...

Nice post Shagger and Big ups to our PAID UP Advertizers! Down with the freeloaders!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 07:49 pm
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I have recently stated that I'd rather be a Sealiner than an advertiser and I'll stick to that.

This is a fantastic forum to discuss various products, brands, concepts and developments and there is a huge need for that, both from a sellers as well as a buyers point of view.

By not allowing or encouraging advertisers to initiate or participate in these discussions that have commercial value, you end up with a politically correct forum that exclusively draws attention to products and brands that do not contribute to the upkeep of the forum.

Can we establish or use a category where we can initiate such discussions?

As an example: the Omoto thread:
I need to do market research that benefits myself, as well as the fishing public from the various views expressed. Don't forget that there are many retailers and suppliers also following this thread, looking at the response from the public.

If I decide to make it a permanent product in my shop, it could contribute to the success or failure of it, having a cascading effect upwards and downwards from the manufacturer to the end user.

Establish some guidelines that prevent advertisers posting prices, but not the public for example. Then we can state to which product or range we are comparing it to and then compare stats and features for instance.

Just my 2c

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 Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 08:01 am
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AndriesH wrote: I have recently stated that I'd rather be a Sealiner than an advertiser and I'll stick to that.

This is a fantastic forum to discuss various products, brands, concepts and developments and there is a huge need for that, both from a sellers as well as a buyers point of view.

By not allowing or encouraging advertisers to initiate or participate in these discussions that have commercial value, you end up with a politically correct forum that exclusively draws attention to products and brands that do not contribute to the upkeep of the forum.

Can we establish or use a category where we can initiate such discussions?

As an example: the Omoto thread:
I need to do market research that benefits myself, as well as the fishing public from the various views expressed. Don't forget that there are many retailers and suppliers also following this thread, looking at the response from the public.

If I decide to make it a permanent product in my shop, it could contribute to the success or failure of it, having a cascading effect upwards and downwards from the manufacturer to the end user.

Establish some guidelines that prevent advertisers posting prices, but not the public for example. Then we can state to which product or range we are comparing it to and then compare stats and features for instance.

Just my 2c


Andries I hear what you say and feel for your predicament.

However, Sealine is not the place for Advertizers to do "Market Research" - what if all the tackle shops wanted to do what you are doing in the Omoto thread? Every thread on the open forum would become one big 'surreptitious' advert - clients being poached left right and centre - just as the Omoto thread has become! (Which has now been locked!) There is nothing wrong with posting a factual article on a particular product, however, a person having a commercial interest in the product may not partake in the discussion that follows - otherwise it turns out into a big promotion; and ethically, a conflict of interests arises. Then the inevitable complaints start pouring in from the Advertizers on Sealine.

You must understand that this disadvantages all the other paid up advertizers. If we allow Tackle dealers to do their "Market research" on Sealine, then Sealine might as well register as another Bid or buy... is that what Sealine is destined for...? Hopefully not.

Sealine Admin has therefore taken the decision that there will be no advertizing from commercial operators on the Open Forum - either subliminal, surreptitious, or blatant - call it what you like. We are determined to keep Sealine as professional as an Angling Forum can be... without the petty mudslinging and backbiting from Tackle dealers that has happened recently.

Hoping for your understanding... :SSS

 

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 Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 05:24 am
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isn't there any existing tackle store owners who are willing to help?
They get rabates with quantities.
If they supply Sealine @ cost + 10% they will score because of pushing qtty.
I run a online tackle store & it works 4 me

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 Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 07:16 am
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prokayak wrote: isn't there any existing tackle store owners who are willing to help?
They get rabates with quantities.
If they supply Sealine @ cost + 10% they will score because of pushing qtty.
I run a online tackle store & it works 4 me


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Khan, please obey the Advertising rules.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 28th, 2009 12:27 pm
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Reefman wrote: shagnrelease wrote: benniejordaan wrote: Sealine is a forum... not a tackle shop.

I agree, although a great place to market and generate an income for the upkeep of Sealine, I believe we should not dilute what has proven to be a succesfull forum??

I also sell tackle amongst other things, and also get uptight when I feel I am getting ripped by the wholesalers, but by and large there are a lot of costs involved with some of the bigger guys, volume based ordering ,logistics and financing slow moving lines, lets face it, in a perfect world we would all love to have a full stock turn around in 60 days?? And the guys that are pulling the ring out of it will have there day, trust me. But I digress, we need the guys to advertise on the site to generate an income and the guys which dont contribute either through advertising or direct benefit to sealine members should not be allowed the free punt, I am guilty of this too as I 
 


Finally someone sees what Admin has to see every day. The number of freeloaders on Sealine is increasing exponentially. Daily we have to delete several messages with guys taking cheap shots at advertizing their goods...

Nice post Shagger and Big ups to our PAID UP Advertizers! Down with the freeloaders!


Guys I apologise for bringing up a topic that seems to be over and done but I really would like to have my say on this. While I agree that persons linked to certain shops or products should not be allowed to use the forum to promote themselves I do feel that we as members without links to these should be allowed to reccommend who and what we please. I recently had excellent service and I do mean excellent from 2 tackle suppliers one is a paid advertiser the other is not. Am I now only allowed to reccommend one of the 2 to fellow members because he is an advertiser? Surely by saying that we should only reccommend our paid up adverisers we become no better than ESA who can only reccommend Daiwa etc because that is who pays their salaries. I know I would rather pay a monthly subscription and be free to promote who and what I want (as long as I am not linked to that person or product) rather than have a free sealine where our advice to fellow members is governed by concerns over who is paid up rather than the best service/price.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 28th, 2009 04:32 pm
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New2Fish wrote: Guys I apologise for bringing up a topic that seems to be over and done but I really would like to have my say on this. While I agree that persons linked to certain shops or products should not be allowed to use the forum to promote themselves I do feel that we as members without links to these should be allowed to reccommend who and what we please. I recently had excellent service and I do mean excellent from 2 tackle suppliers one is a paid advertiser the other is not. Am I now only allowed to reccommend one of the 2 to fellow members because he is an advertiser? Surely by saying that we should only reccommend our paid up adverisers we become no better than ESA who can only reccommend Daiwa etc because that is who pays their salaries. I know I would rather pay a monthly subscription and be free to promote who and what I want (as long as I am not linked to that person or product) rather than have a free sealine where our advice to fellow members is governed by concerns over who is paid up rather than the best service/price.

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Bradley... no problem for bringing this up, it needs to be discussed. You will notice that if someone has some accolades to sing about a certain product, company or supplier, we allow that to go ahead, whether the company is a Paid up advertizer or not. There are no holds barred when it comes to ordinary members making a legitimate post about a product/supplier. Is ESA a product? Darn right it is! And we allow posts about ESA every week.... (yawn). Shimano/Daiwa are products right? Same thing!

The problem comes when guys abuse this... a Bait supplier, for instance, will get all his mates to give him a punt without paying a zac... we won't allow this. Certain companies have been blacklisted in this regard - just no ethics whatsoever.

Certain companies don't have much of an ethic when it comes to this... so we need to be fairly strict on certain things. You can name the Supplier who did good with you, but don't in the same post give out his address and telephone number, because then it becomes a blatant advert. And while most Sealine members are pretty good about this, there are always the dishonest ones, who will bend the envelope until it tears - these are the bad apples we want to stop...

 

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Mickey wrote:
Sealine already has (and is) a 2nd hand shop!

Could'nt agree more Mickey. But I suppose considering the number of Internet Anglers around it would only be fitting to have an Internet Tackle shop

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 Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2009 02:27 pm
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I'm in.

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Hell yea,

Guys i don't wanna take over here but think this an awesome idea and i have a mate in Meyerton that is willing to assist us with his tackle shop............we can arrange for deliveries(in and arround the east rand and vaal driehoek) if that is any constelation to making it easier for the angler.

He will give a price based on the interest of the sealiners and would more than likely be something like cost +10 or cost+15%..........there about.

Please let me know what you think about that!

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