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Noweeds
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This is less of a brag post and more of a thank you post.....
I have been playing around with the idea of getting a kite setup for years. I finally pulled the trigger a few months ago. The thanks goes to Enigma for answering my myriad of questions about filling the reel, the kite setup, etc, etc etc.
So after getting everything setup and dropping a few baits in borderline unfishable sea the last two weekends, Saturday offered the first real opportunity to put the kit to the test............

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The first 3 drops resulted in three of these little testers......

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Being 2min from home I popped back for some lunch......but I had this nagging feeling I had to go back for one more drop......
So in a screaming 50km+ wind I dropped a bait at 200m and the kite was barely back when the TLD50II started screaming. I looked out to sea and saw the first aerial display of the blackfin before I could even get the rod out the holder. I estimated it as a 50kilo fish (I was fooled by the distance)!
Anyway I bumped the drag up to about 14kilos and the fish went ape sh!t!!!!! I soon realised that I was in deep kuk, with a proper blackfin giving me gears and not another soul around........nobody!!
I gave the missus a call and with some smooth talking got her to come down and second me (carrying tapes, pliers, cameras etc).
Being on my own I knew I could not deal with a green BT on my own so backed of on the drag and played a more tactical game.........I will say that it gives you massive peace of mind having 150m of .80 mono and 2mm leader when the fish starts dragging you all over the bricks!
Anyhoo.....after 2 hours I managed to work the fish to the slipway in the river mouth and leadered and tailed it on my own.
What a magic way to break in the tackle and what a magic fish to land on your own...........Thanks again to Craig for all the help!

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My modified pentagon pulling as hard as I can......a scary machine........

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Congrats Noweeds , awesome fish - nice dog as well !

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Thanks man.....that was some bystanders dog.....this is my hound....Finn

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Very nice fish!What guides are those on your pentagon?

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awesome stuff no weeds.. that song 'on my own' kept playing through my mind when you mentioned you being alone there lol ;)

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Good stuff Noweeds, well done and a good catch too.

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Good stuff Noweeds, well done and a good catch too.

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Occie wrote:
Very nice fish!What guides are those on your pentagon?

Those boat guides are on the Small boat rod used to fly the kite.

The Pentagon is standard PAc Bay from what I can see.

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Thanks for the mention Greg, was great chatting and better seeing the results.

Well done on the BT and the solo landing.

One thing I haven't posted on is how I modified my Kite and Swimbait Rigs. This I did because I went Extreme to land my Black Pylies over the reefs at St Francis and rigged up with a 30mm windon.

I was worried as to the threat of a fish tangled or affixed to such heavy tackle if I got cut off.

Solution....... I use a Slide rig (2mm Heavy Duty)with a heavy duty stopper rig on a thimble on the windon with the sinker attached to the ring.

This way if it snags up and the line breaks the sinker drops and the fish swims the line off thereby only having a hook trace left behind.

Works just as well with the Dinglehopper as well.

Loveliest Shark we have and I'm sure in the coming Summer Months you are going to be doing the rounds with a Zambi Greg

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Enigma wrote: Occie wrote:
Very nice fish!What guides are those on your pentagon?

Those boat guides are on the Small boat rod used to fly the kite.

The Pentagon is standard PAc Bay from what I can see.


Lol it has been a long day at work didnt look properly thought they looked a bit unusual.

 

 

 

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Sweet Weeds

at last, hope there is more to come

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Nice fish! What bait were you using?

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Solid fish Greg.

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The pentagon has STD PAC bay guides except for the tip....there was no std tip top that would fit the dia of the blank with the first two eyes removed.........trawled around and found a diamite eye that with some stretching fitted.
I like that idea of yours Craig. I must admit I am a bit scared of the day I get jammed on a reef.....its going to be a dog show trying to break off.
The bait was a whole kob.

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Well done.. There is nothing better than success! That is not a small fish.

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Been doing it a while and have learnt how to break the big line suck in the rocks.

Solution.

Get 20-30m back from the water.

Put the rod down or give to an assistant to hold the rod.

Walk forward to where you have a secure foothold and the line has a clear path into the water.

Wrap the line around your hips (hold it either side of you and wrap yourself into it) Make sure the lines don't cross or they will cut themselves off.

Walk backward, looking at the ocean, pull the line till it becomes "DEAD" ie you can feel there is no stretch.

Now sit down onto your haunches and the line will pop.

Never try using the rod and reel to do it............ let Sunil/Leon and Jo do it on the Island for 30min before sharing the trick.

They got their swimbait trace, a windon, a heap of 0,55mm lines and a slide sinker back doing it like that.

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In the back of my mind I had a similar tactic up my sleeve.....glad it works......still not keen to try it though!!

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Enigma wrote: Been doing it a while and have learnt how to break the big line suck in the rocks.

Solution.

Get 20-30m back from the water.

Put the rod down or give to an assistant to hold the rod.

Walk forward to where you have a secure foothold and the line has a clear path into the water.

Wrap the line around your hips (hold it either side of you and wrap yourself into it) Make sure the lines don't cross or they will cut themselves off.

Walk backward, looking at the ocean, pull the line till it becomes "DEAD" ie you can feel there is no stretch.

Now sit down onto your haunches and the line will pop.

Never try using the rod and reel to do it............ let Sunil/Leon and Jo do it on the Island for 30min before sharing the trick.

They got their swimbait trace, a windon, a heap of 0,55mm lines and a slide sinker back doing it like that.

 

Thanks for sharing Craig. Got 0.8mm stuck on the kite only once and Zola did the same to pop it. Must have got the tip from you.

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The first time I went kiting I got stuck with only 0.7mm xx rainbow line, brand new line and i tried to snap it well if it wasn't for Craigs advise I dunno how else I would have done it, the line did snap eventually but that line was as tight as hell before it broke. When it broke I went backwards into the bush due to the line now having zero stretch. new 0.8mm line in good nick must be scary to snap off,eish.

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We operate in style.......

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nice idea

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awesome catch man thanks for sharing

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Brilliant,congrats all-round.

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Great looking fish ! I wonder how heavy is it ?

Fellows, can you drop a line of advise how select a right sinker when taking the bait offshore with a kite ?

I put 3oz star sinker, but the current would carry my bait along the beach still.

I'm after edible fishes and my gear is not for sharks.


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With a shark bait we put a 6oz Grapnel (minimum) and depending on the wash and currents will go up to 10oz with long wires.

Even if it is for edibles I would recommend looking at a 5-7oz Grapnel weight. The reason for this is the wash and it's pull on the line which will dislodge your 3oz and even more so with it not being a Grapnel weight.

The Blackfin Greg caught in this thread is around the 100kg Mark

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Thanks Enigma.
I'll buy bottle sinkers and make them into the grapnel sinkers.
The "weed eater" sinkers could an easier to make and I'm keen to try them as well.

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Awesome fish Noweeds. Next time give me a call and I will help gladly.

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The Grapnel just works better. You can use the weedeater mold or the other and use 2.4mm bailing wire wich is soft enough to bend by hand and they make and awesome grapnel, that is for the kite, I'd still recommend using Stainless Steel wire of 1.6-2.4mm for the Casting grapnels.

The kite dropped baits are usually if not always behind the breakers so the bailing wire suffices, casting into the breakers is a completely different story.

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Dropped some more baits today.... First one the ratchet literally made two clicks then nothing, the current was screaming after the massive sea yesterday so thought nothing of it.....reeled in to find the 250lb steel bitten off.......

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Next bait....... On!
Had some backup this time so decided to test the tackle a little more...... I never took the drag past strike though......still this fish fought like it had run into a brick wall!! 96kilos.... 45min

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Beautiful fish Greg.

Maybe next time the one that chewed the steel will stay connected and test the drag a bit more.

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^^..^^..

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Also don't mid the comments on Facebook about the gloves, they haven't had to hold onto a rig like that with that type of drag.....

No callouses then but Blood Blisters or deep braid cuts with no gloves and besides, makes using a windon to land a fish a lot easier with gloves.

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Ja the braid with no gloves eats your hands.........it would only take one small loss of concentration and you could properly hurt yourself.
I don't even bother to grab the leader, just wind it two turns onto the reel, lock the drag and use the rod as a gaff. Must say it is nice having a slipway to land the fish on at this spot......makes it so easy (once you get them there!!).

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Nice fish ! That looks like a yellowtail head ?

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Correct.....

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The actual bait....this yellowtail has done many trips to the beach hence looking so siff.......it eventually had to go for a swim.
I bought some mustad circles last week....opened the gape slightly in the vice......first one I tied on, first drop, VAS..........even with no barb I battled to get this hook out even though I was using a proper hook disgorger!

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Congrats lekker fish.

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Very nice fish.Would be interesting to know what bit thru that 250lb without much tension on it.Zambie?
I must say I also use the mustads but half the time have to cut the hook off as they are very hard to get out.

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Joined: Tue Feb 25th, 2014
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 194
Equipment: TLD50, Grandwave 50, Penn Senator 9/0. Daiwa 4000 5bi, Purglass ...
Best Catch: 78kg Raggie
Favorite Fishing Spot: Mpenjati
Boat: Mighty Dinglehopper
Club: n/a
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Mana: 
Im enjoying this thread - Ive always wanted to kitefish - one day when Im big.
Please keep posting pics - baits, traces, rigs etc.

romanza1
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Joined: Wed Jul 4th, 2012
Location: East London, South Africa
Posts: 62
Equipment: l/f 14ft, daiwa sl50, l/f 12ft, daiwa sl30, l/f 9ft, ...
Best Catch: Lots of Bags, 160kg Zambizi
Favorite Fishing Spot: kwelera, Transkie, gonubie point.......and and and
Boat: no
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Mana: 
Come Greg... Share a bit more knowledge and photo's here. I'm toying with the idea of getting myself a kite (so I don't have to rely on you or Johno for a taxi!! :cool: )