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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 01:33 pm $report_button
   
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Favorite Fishing Spot: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...Cabo San Lucas Mx, Brazil- Rio, Australia, South Africa & ...
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tkei wrote: Finnseeker, Thanks again for the info. havnt finished going through it all (baby takes all my time) but I passed it on a mates that have a boat and house at watamu kenya. They thouroughly enjoyed it. As for your 18 rods to create the school effect, on their 38ft Supercat up there we puleld 11 rods and the 25-30kg YFT arrived, 5 anglers 11 rods away and chaos. Makes for expensive fishing that.

A year or 2 back they had Brad Philips do a seminar on Billfish fishing, but held it in jhb for those marlim manna. Of course most couldnt make it. For the rest of us plebs inthe sticks we have to rely on guys like you sharing info, reading etc and then hope to remember a little bit of it when that once in a lifetime marlin pops into the spread. Lat time it happend, i forgot it all and bye bye fish. Next time.
You say for marlin need to fish the colour and current lines. I have always fished the colour changes and often have caught more on the dirty side. Usually the various tunny though, dorado usually ont he clean side, but not always. Off the transkei, I find there are few distinct temp changes. last dec, left the launch at 25deg and got tot the shelf and past it and temp was up to 25.5 int he 12-13km. Yip, our shelf close in there. battled to find any fish at all. This tends to be common our way. The only time i found a distinct clean current line with temp change, I dropped a stripy, so def need that change. We also battle due to us being the only boat that troll really. The rest only target bottom fish. One other boat does troll but they are fly fishermen so happy to get bonnies and dorado on the long wands. No way am I going 20 odd miles out as the only boat, not safe to do that so we dont cover water like other places can to find the fish.
Thanks again.

That must have been a sight 11 rods going off with YFT exploding all over chineeeeeese fire drill. Im glad they liked some of the info.

Brad is a very good friend and any seminar he did would have been top class, he is a stand up guy and good choice to do a seminar. Pity it was in JHB and done with the coasties.

I run 65 nm offshore no problem and the only boat there, granted I have a 6 man life raft, sat phone, epirb and two engines but things can go wrong. Just have to be sea smart. I go looking for fish where they are and I love the hunt finding fish new areas etc. Im constantly looking checking new area's and learning.

Do not be afraid to try new area's explore you will be surprised what you find. I see you have the currents down well thats great now work these to your advantage and run some lures through and around. As i have said once you have found one fish there are more - think of and ice berg you just saw the tip.

Mark the area do MOB , notice day time, current direction, wind direction swell direction, trolling direction, water temp, what lure, what colour, which rod then turn around and work the area. Dont leave fish to find fish. Fish are not stupid and they are there for on reason only and that is to feed and eat. They dont just hang around for nothing.

I have 4 ditek temp gauges onboard and contantly checking SST but remember that this is only the surface so I stop sometimes and drop my thermometer down 20 m and see the temp there also. I also have a lazer temp guage and its deadly accurate.

I overlay all this data on my Furuna chartplotter with Max Sea - SST, wind Current, bathometric's real time from the sat. Do not foreget to log this information as time and time again when you out next week, month, year go back and you will be surprised. Fish have fav hang outs just like we do for many reasons.

Dont be afraid to try a new spot, area - also run a tuna feather off the long whisky line/stinger line, dorado, tuna wahoo will nail it as well as marlin. I have caught many marlin whilst trolling for tuna with a cedar plug . Just like tuna marlin have various bodies groups and come in waves and not always the same body of fish, you can tell by the sizes

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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 01:36 pm $report_button
   
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GL - are you nuts .............................I would not be targeting anything less than those grander blacks there with live and dead baits ..............fishing of a lifetime. ...............seriously forget the small marlin you can get those anywhere but lizard is the place for some big fish so go for it.


TK/Finns

I hear you both . . . and make no mistake we will target the 750 - 1000lb granders as Nomad seems to have excellent reputation and many happy clients.

GT plugging is what I enjoy, even though it kills you physically. The area we are going to is prime Marlin territory but also GT country. Due to dates, ect this time works for us so destination is not 100% in line with GT & Doggie hunting!

I am going with my 15yr old son for his birthday and having travelled so far for 7 days fishing, I am not sure I want to spend the time trolling for the big one when a few 2-400 lbders for the week plus lots of 15 - 30kg GT's, doggies, coral trout, etc a day will make this a birthday trip of a lifetime for Josh.

Gotta put it in perspective, if I want my boy to enjoy trip, I can't have him trolling for hours for big ones . . . . kids are active. If we have a good trip, I am back with Nomad next year but probably in a different area.

On the water this time next month:wfish

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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 01:53 pm $report_button
   
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Favorite Fishing Spot: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...Cabo San Lucas Mx, Brazil- Rio, Australia, South Africa & ...
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GL wrote: Finnseeker wrote:
GL - are you nuts .............................I would not be targeting anything less than those grander blacks there with live and dead baits ..............fishing of a lifetime. ...............seriously forget the small marlin you can get those anywhere but lizard is the place for some big fish so go for it.


TK/Finns

I hear you both . . . and make no mistake we will target the 750 - 1000lb granders as Nomad seems to have excellent reputation and many happy clients.

GT plugging is what I enjoy, even though it kills you physically. The area we are going to is prime Marlin territory but also GT country. Due to dates, ect this time works for us so destination is not 100% in line with GT & Doggie hunting!

I am going with my 15yr old son for his birthday and having travelled so far for 7 days fishing, I am not sure I want to spend the time trolling for the big one when a few 2-400 lbders for the week plus lots of 15 - 30kg GT's, doggies, coral trout, etc a day will make this a birthday trip of a lifetime for Josh.

Gotta put it in perspective, if I want my boy to enjoy trip, I can't have him trolling for hours for big ones . . . . kids are active. If we have a good trip, I am back with Nomad next year but probably in a different area.

On the water this time next month:wfish
GL you wont be trolling all day they are there and you will be fighting these fish for a while. This experience Josh will have will be life altering seeing the size of these explode on the baits and jumping while the boat backs down hard and he releases his first big marlin.
Oh you will have a lot of 2-400 lb fish but biiiiig mama will find you as well and be prepared. That is a trip of a lifetime for any 15 yr old but to be able to say to all his mates .........................I released a grander or 800 lb marlin at 15 yrs old is amazing. Whats the kids record ?
Anyway the opportunity presents itself and you have more than enough time to do the other species. I hope you do it , do both and enjoy father son experience nothing better in my book

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carcharias wrote: The dates that are advertised are from the 17th to the 21st Feb 2009. That makes the 13, 14 , 15th of feb the perfect time for a seminar.carcharias - thats perfect I will be done fishing the Brazil tournaments which ends  4th Feb. Even if no seminar Im planning on participating hopefully in this event provided its all release billfish only.

Do you know any here that fish it, will be fishing it ?

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That is a trip of a lifetime for any 15 yr old but to be able to say to all his mates .........................I released a grander or 800 lb marlin at 15 yrs old is amazing. Whats the kids record?

neither he nor dad have caught a marlin so this is a first for both of us in chasing big uns . . . problem comes when dad has to listen for next 25 yrs how son caught 800lbder first!! will be worth it::S

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Favorite Fishing Spot: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...Cabo San Lucas Mx, Brazil- Rio, Australia, South Africa & ...
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GL wrote: Finnseeker wrote:
That is a trip of a lifetime for any 15 yr old but to be able to say to all his mates .........................I released a grander or 800 lb marlin at 15 yrs old is amazing. Whats the kids record?

neither he nor dad have caught a marlin so this is a first for both of us in chasing big uns . . . problem comes when dad has to listen for next 25 yrs how son caught 800lbder first!! will be worth it::S
Gl - you best be going to the gym ..............................Josh sounds he will pull your chain forever . Still its great you have the opportunity and giving him this opportunity that very few will ever have or get to do. Take pics, many many, its a lifetime take a video as well.
Good luck - enjoy and get one. This is what you will see

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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 03:08 pm $report_button
   
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Finns,

these are awesome pics . . . please Lord let us post the same pics next month!!!!!!!! 

seriously have been delaying gym for weeks but Josh is rock solid, strong and fit. Joke in home is he will tire fish out and then hand rod to dad for pics.

 

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These are my lures that I made for friends in Brazil and donated to the club, the lure shows a single stiff rig that they used in this picture and the slant head I made for them. I dontated 40 to the club and 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th place fish were all caught on this exact lure - these I make for my boat Reelaxe and so they all had my boat name in them. ( I dont sell lures - I just experiment with what works for me then I try them out)

This fish weighed in at 1257 lbs and why they kept it. Look at the size of the bait in its stomach - its stomach was full and still hit this lure - just goes to show you predatory instinct and strike , natural instinct to strike








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Favorite Fishing Spot: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...Cabo San Lucas Mx, Brazil- Rio, Australia, South Africa & ...
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Finnseeker wrote:

This one is for Miles and Mrs Miles - PV YFT this week

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Finns,

noticed many rods in photos . . . did they have Stella 10's or 20 000's on them;);). off to the gym now.

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Finn - I've never targetted Spindle Beaks of any kind mate, so no I can't say I've used my stella on them... I've caught a few sails, and my last one was taken on a little Shimano Calcutta 400, a 7ft medium casting stick from St.Croix and a 1oz white bucktail from under a school of Bonnies in Seychelles 3 years back....

But I'd have no hesitation in using my Stella 20 K for them!! :-) Yes I'm a little Stella Crazy, but what the hell! :-)

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That fish of Di and Adrians is a pig man!!! Awesome pics Chris!! I want one of those on a popper!! hahahahaha!!!

Graeme - check your mail boet, sent you two... let me know if you get them

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Best Catch: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...
Favorite Fishing Spot: Released 190 Striped Marlin 1 day, 1109 lbs Mako Shark, ...Cabo San Lucas Mx, Brazil- Rio, Australia, South Africa & ...
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GL wrote: Finns,

noticed many rods in photos . . . did they have Stella 10's or 20 000's on them;);). off to the gym now.

GL yes did not have time to clear rods when it took off like that - first concentrated on getting the angler settled and not loosing the fish then cleared the rods since I had so many out there. Would prefer to clear the rods at the same time but this instnce I did not have such an experienced crew but still released the fish - No Stella's have seen the brazilians get spooled completely by 120kg hot striped marlin seen their stella's blow up in pices on the decks. Now that pissed me off................................

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