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 Posted: Mon May 4th, 2015 11:55 am
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Ben REINERS
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Hi the SL's & all our Lure fanatics........

Some friends of mine & myself are looking to buy some MirrOlures , mostly the ones (Medium to small sized) used in estuaries /lagoons etc. (I don't have the specific models/lengths/colors yet).
I have spoken to Chad at Alcocks & he does have , & we will share some pics as to what he has etc, though I need to see what other possible Eastern Cape Tackle shops also might stock & sell.

If you are aware of any other T.Shops please let me know.

There might be individual anglers wanting to sell theirs , so I will gladly hear from you if you willing to sell/part with your unused MirrOlures.

Much appreciated & _seal1_


 


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 Posted: Mon May 4th, 2015 03:44 pm
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try http://www.tackledirect.com they got big selection of mirrOr lures , bought a few the other day.

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 12:58 am
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Ben REINERS
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Thks very much....will check it out. Its just the exchange rate (R/$)& postage & possible revenue I am concerned about. I dont want to end up paying x 3 the price for 1.

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 10:00 am
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Suppliers is SA also need to pay all the mentioned costs and then add another 25-35% so you will at least save 30% if you buy direct.

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 10:29 am
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Hi Ben

eBay is good place to start - sign up with Paypal - quick & easy. Working out your cost is simple - lure price + postage, when they arrive you'll usually pay R35 standard handling fee + VAT on the lure value. If item is sent registered you will deff. pay VAT, if it's sent ordinary post it will be slower and you might not pay VAT.

As far as I know the Allcocks have the 7M which for Tkei/Zululand rivers is the pick of the bunch. I've used a few types in the surf - they don't cast especially well but I got nice greenspots at Bhanga Nek and springer at Blue Lagoon on the 52M in colour 18 (like red eyed sard, best of the lot IMO).

At a guess the smaller ones like the Catch Jr 22MR and the 4M will be better for your estuaries. I think the 65M and 32M will also both have their day, the 65M really gets down deep.

I think the current obsession with long-distance spinning has led to people ignoring fishing the water just behind the shorebreak properly - especially up north. I got all those fish (and the Allcocks and Swannells got countless many more) on short baitcasting rods in the surf. Who'd think of using such gear nowadays? I think we are all guilty of throwing over the fish sometimes...

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 12:38 pm
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Ben REINERS
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@ Jafta1.........its not always the case as one will find tackle-shops who does have stock, be new or old are most of the times much cheaper than outside the country. Yes there are instances where your only bet is overseas markets/tackle shops , or Ebay as Rolfe said, then one has to bite the grid & buy........:shock:
These lures can be bought in SA for +-R120-140 but then overseas it goes beyond R250 at various places........crazy.

To give you an idea.......Rapala Shad Rap shallow runner on Ebay.... the cheapest with postage = R200........others up to R250- 300. Then you stand the risk of import VAT being added.
In SA 1 = R100 after many call.........maybe not the color of choice but something close......!!

@ Rolfe ...........I am on eBAY & have bought many lures from Ebay , though the shlepp is one find say 4 - 6 from various suppliers & end up paying various rates in shipping , from FREE to R50-100......!!
I always try the local market for old stock first.........what is nice is that some local t.shops still have very old stock in shops like Alcocks as you said.......then it becomes a "poor-mans"  haven........;)

Its so true what you say wrt distance lure casting.........I have seen very few fish taken on lure out far , yet majority of fish being taken very close or behind shore-break. 
Then again other anglers targeting other species will argue differently which is true.
In the rivers & estuaries we never do long distance casting , always close quarters.

I will have to take a look at those proposed models you refering to.......they have now become a "must have" on my list of lures.
I notice that the wire/hook snood is not running all the way through from either back to front or vice versa in the body of the lure!

Have you experienced any trouble with those little hooks which seems to screw into the body of the lure pulling loose or out ?
Seems like a weak point , though I cannot confirm that.   

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 12:41 pm
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Hi Ben

eBay is good place to start - sign up with Paypal - quick & easy. Working out your cost is simple - lure price + postage, when they arrive you'll usually pay R35 standard handling fee + VAT on the lure value. If item is sent registered you will deff. pay VAT, if it's sent ordinary post it will be slower and you might not pay VAT.

As far as I know the Allcocks have the 7M which for Tkei/Zululand rivers is the pick of the bunch. I've used a few types in the surf - they don't cast especially well but I got nice greenspots at Bhanga Nek and springer at Blue Lagoon on the 52M in colour 18 (like red eyed sard, best of the lot IMO).

At a guess the smaller ones like the Catch Jr 22MR and the 4M will be better for your estuaries. I think the 65M and 32M will also both have their day, the 65M really gets down deep.

I think the current obsession with long-distance spinning has led to people ignoring fishing the water just behind the shorebreak properly - especially up north. I got all those fish (and the Allcocks and Swannells got countless many more) on short baitcasting rods in the surf. Who'd think of using such gear nowadays? I think we are all guilty of throwing over the fish sometimes...


Hi allsorts

The point that you raised about distance is a good one.

To my way of thinking there is often a trade off between casting distance and performance.

Casting distance needs a more stable design that will resist tumbling.

Proper lure action often needs erratic "unbalanced" action to give it the magic touch.

The point about distance is well made.

When I go spearfishing, I often find fish right in the shallows and fewer fish as I get further out.

It often is unnecessary to get the lure over the horizon.

This is not always the case and often with skittish fish you need to hoist the lure quite a distance.

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 Posted: Tue May 5th, 2015 11:38 pm
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Ben REINERS wrote:
Have you experienced any trouble with those little hooks which seems to screw into the body of the lure pulling loose or out ?
Seems like a weak point , though I cannot confirm that.   


Funny you should ask that Ben - I held one of those greenspots hard and he opened the hooks and actually cracked the bait with jaw pressure. It was a fluke and I wouldn't have lost the fish, I was just down one lure.

Lots of good Japanese-designed options but they are pricier with the one upside that postage is usually cheaper - US postage is pretty high. There is a very good Loomis & Franklin plug that looks like a Lucky 13 - good wiggle and works a lot like a 7M. Another option is to modify cheap lures - maybe a Flicker Shad with a short lip would work well? A Shad Rap with extra weight added - the Sub-Walk can be made to suspend with lighter hooks. Drill a hole in a Halco and add some rat shot - lots of mods possible & could result in a brilliant lure.

The Bagley finger mullet and bomber Badonks that just got into the shops here also worth a look.

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2015 02:41 pm
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Hi Ben.
Give me a call.We have spoken in the past
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Here you will find ALL the mirrolures



http://www.shopmirrolure.com/

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2015 04:32 pm
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I have found that Rapala Sub Walk's in both 7 and 9 cms, can be modified to give them greater action. Off the shelves they are quite dead in the water.

Firstly remove the trebles and split rings and replace with lighter and stronger Owner split rings and JDM trebles. A Decoy plugging single at the back also removes weight and increases reponsiveness. I have a 9cm sub walk that suspends 15cm below surface and WTD like a top water plug.

Then, if you want you can load the lure with some water or baby oil. Just make sure that the water is totally pure and sterile , otherwise you will have algae growing inside the lure. I loaded a 9cm sub walk to 26g and it was a great lure till it turned black from algae! :?

Or if you can still find small rapala twitching raps, buy them all!

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2015 07:18 pm
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Jacquesdw wrote:
I have found that Rapala Sub Walk's in both 7 and 9 cms, can be modified to give them greater action. Off the shelves they are quite dead in the water.

Firstly remove the trebles and split rings and replace with lighter and stronger Owner split rings and JDM trebles. A Decoy plugging single at the back also removes weight and increases reponsiveness. I have a 9cm sub walk that suspends 15cm below surface and WTD like a top water plug.

Then, if you want you can load the lure with some water or baby oil. Just make sure that the water is totally pure and sterile , otherwise you will have algae growing inside the lure. I loaded a 9cm sub walk to 26g and it was a great lure till it turned black from algae! :?

Or if you can still find small rapala twitching raps, buy them all!
((goodp_..VERY cleva!!!

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 Posted: Fri May 8th, 2015 01:39 pm
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@ Rolfe........its funny that the hook-keeper was not yet  replaced with 1 solid front to end wire.....it works with all other lures......much stronger & safer.
Am with you on the mods , though soon I might find all my lures with holes & mods & lying in the dustbin after failing to do it properly.........:X;)


@ Mikea........Thks again for the assistance.....much appreciated._seal1_

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 Posted: Fri May 8th, 2015 01:50 pm
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Ben REINERS wrote:
@ Rolfe........its funny that the hook-keeper was not yet  replaced with 1 solid front to end wire.....it works with all other lures......much stronger & safer.
Am with you on the mods , though soon I might find all my lures with holes & mods & lying in the dustbin after failing to do it properly.........:X;)


@ Mikea........Thks again for the assistance.....much appreciated._seal1_


Hi Ben

Given the pedigree of the Mirrolure (they are selling same lure for 60 years)I guess it isn't a big problem. I think if you tried to break one in half you'd see it was actually a very strong design. The cracking I saw on mine certainly didn't affect the structural integrity. If it ain't broke I suppose....

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 Posted: Fri May 8th, 2015 02:01 pm
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Allsorts wrote: Ben REINERS wrote:
@ Rolfe........its funny that the hook-keeper was not yet  replaced with 1 solid front to end wire.....it works with all other lures......much stronger & safer.
Am with you on the mods , though soon I might find all my lures with holes & mods & lying in the dustbin after failing to do it properly.........:X;)


@ Mikea........Thks again for the assistance.....much appreciated._seal1_


Hi Ben

Given the pedigree of the Mirrolure (they are selling same lure for 60 years)I guess it isn't a big problem. I think if you tried to break one in half you'd see it was actually a very strong design. The cracking I saw on mine certainly didn't affect the structural integrity. If it ain't broke I suppose....

Truly said........its mind over matter to me................just my safety-net going into overdrive !!

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Ben REINERS wrote:
Allsorts wrote: Ben REINERS wrote:
@ Rolfe........its funny that the hook-keeper was not yet  replaced with 1 solid front to end wire.....it works with all other lures......much stronger & safer.
Am with you on the mods , though soon I might find all my lures with holes & mods & lying in the dustbin after failing to do it properly.........:X;)


@ Mikea........Thks again for the assistance.....much appreciated._seal1_


Hi Ben

Given the pedigree of the Mirrolure (they are selling same lure for 60 years)I guess it isn't a big problem. I think if you tried to break one in half you'd see it was actually a very strong design. The cracking I saw on mine certainly didn't affect the structural integrity. If it ain't broke I suppose....

Truly said........its mind over matter to me................just my safety-net going into overdrive !!
;)You have every right to be concerned...most of these lures were designed for use in freshwater conditions and not the harsh sea conditions.....hence Rapala making specific lures for saltwater use....

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i have caught tarpon, snapper and barracuda upto 20lb on these MirrOlure® NEW Series III® Sinking Twitchbait S52MR, the toothy critters do cause damage and even crack the lure but all part of throwing a lure.
The factory issued hooks need to be removed and replaced. i replace them with 1 'o' decoy inline hooks , use 2. one in front and one at the rear , i remove the middle hook completely.

the inline hooks i put onto a size 5 or 6 owner split ring and then put them onto the lure. never really had issues with the small screws on the lures but they do rust very quickly so soak them in some warm fresh water overnight , after using them in the sea and then dry them off a squirt of WD40 onto a earbud and then rubbed onto the screw area will retard the rust.

they are only 14 grams so they are light but if you fishing PE1.5 , PE2 they do cast alright , lighter line the better but sometimes not the best.

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i recently lost a better class leerie when at my feet the screw-in hook ring pulled out. was going to release the leerie anyway but was sad that the leerie is now destined to be doomed unfortunately with a treble stuck. those hooks don't rust out as is often claimed.

first time it has happened after using them for a long time but through wire is the answer

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@ Frank22..........Yip I agree......they tough to a certain extent I suppose & not beyond the intended use as Rolfe (Allsorts)also indicated.
The fresh warm water with a bit of lube s.times works well........its the only way I keep my  lures rust free.

Where were yr catches with MirrOlures mainly & where did you buy them ?


@ classifieds............I thought of removing the main-line hook-snoots small screws holding the hooks &  fill the small hole with a bit of  good epoxy/resin for peace of mind........if some disaster happens thereafter I can blame myself...............:)

Where do you get your MirrOlures from ?

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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2015 12:44 am
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i have epoxy glued them in now. let's hope! Heddon's Zara Spooks the same.
Imported mine quite some time ago

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