SEALINE - South African Angling and Boating Community Home 


 Moderated by: Enigma, Emperor  
AuthorPost
willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 

Right guys this is a quick diy about how to make a slide maker and how to make your own slides.

it is how I do it. it works for me.
please feel free to comment and share your way of making them.

It is quite easy to do it and at the end of the day, much more rewarding, in catching a fish with equipment you made yourself.

Just some back ground:
I have always been a rock and surf "salt water angler" and my vision in life was to catch big fish.

no sharks, just big edible fish.

in 1996 I met the pioneer who actually invented the slide, but he never went on to produce and distribute it.
he was Jack Doonan, an Irish engineer and local angler in St Lucia. a brilliant angler I should add.

the slide was a conversion from the old clip "cuda clip"

since then I have only produced my own slides and all of my fish have been caught on my own slides.

so yes, a big reward for me over the years.
I have also made some slides for a tackle shop in Heidelberg, where I would make 100 slides and I would get 25 out of the 100 made.

the big problem was to source the correct wire.

it has been discussed several time which wire one needs to use when making your own slide.

I even tried making them from galvanised spring steel. this did work, but as salt water and galvanise don't mix it was a flop.

over time I have come to the conclusion that stainless spring steel wire was the best to use.
several anglers use tig wire 316 stain less steel.
it must be noted that the tig wire is not a spring steel wire, hence the use of beads between the bend and locking arm

the bead prevents the slide from deformation when big pressure is applied to it.

further is have found that the best wire to use for slides is 1,8mm thick.
1,6mm does work but with heavy pressure it will start to deform.
I even used 1,2mm wire and caught plenty of cob and Garrick on them.

with me being able to turn plenty of slides as well as fishing with my own slides I have found that a 3-5 turn slide works best.

I am in the proses of playing more since I have achieved my goal posts in life with regards to size caught.
so now it is time, to fine tune certain aspects of my angling, cause currently I want quantity and not quality.

so the more fish I can catch now, the more rewarding I hope it will be.


so lets get to the point: the slide maker.

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 04:13 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
What do you need:

240 mm flat bar, I used 8mm x 40 mm.
1x no2 phillps screw driver
1x 5 or 6 mm allen key.
1x 130 - 150mm 10mm round bar steel

seen here Is the steel flat bar.

Attachment: WP_20160501_002.jpg (Downloaded 1409 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 03:09 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
the steel flat bar was cut in 2x pieces of 65 mm and 1x piece of 100mm.

the 2x 65 mm pieces were clamped together and a pilot hole was drilled through both flat bars at one.
the height from the top was about 10-12mm

the reason why I used 8mm flat bar is the play in the slide maker shaft is less.

Attachment: WP_20160501_003.jpg (Downloaded 1413 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 03:09 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
the pilot hole was then drilled to 6mm.
seen here the screw driver now through the vertical bars.

Attachment: WP_20160501_004.jpg (Downloaded 1409 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so here, the screw driver handle was removed.
also with it a 10mkm steel round bar of 150 mm in length "the handle"

Attachment: WP_20160501_008.jpg (Downloaded 1411 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
you will also see that when I drilled the 6mm hole, I sommer drilled 4x 2mm holes on each top corner.
the distance was about 2mm from side to side.

these small holes are used to bend the steel wire as will be seen later.

Attachment: WP_20160501_009.jpg (Downloaded 1407 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here one can see the two upright bars welded as well as the handle.
the handle has a bend of 50mm and a hole of 6mm was drilled into the steel round bar, where the screw driver fitted through.
the screw driver is also flattened on the one side and this prevents one from pushing the shaft too far in.
it thus acts as a stopper.

Attachment: WP_20160501_010.jpg (Downloaded 1409 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 03:28 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
from the other side, the 4x 2mm holes which is used to bend wire

Attachment: WP_20160501_012.jpg (Downloaded 1404 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so with that done, the allen key is pulled closer.
the reason for using the allen key is that it is hardened steel.
no you need to grind away 2mm of steel from the allen key.

Attachment: WP_20160501_013.jpg (Downloaded 1402 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
the allen key is cut much longer then what is needed.
this allows for the proper clamping of the steel piece to the screw driver shaft where it will be welded.

Attachment: WP_20160501_015.jpg (Downloaded 1402 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
seen here the allen key piece being clamped down. the spacing is just about 2mm.

Attachment: WP_20160501_016.jpg (Downloaded 1401 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here it is welded.
note that the back end will be cut off.

Attachment: WP_20160501_017.jpg (Downloaded 1401 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
seen here the back is is cut off.
the front tip of the Phillips screw driver has a 2mm cut in it. I am currently exploring on how I will be using that cut.

but to this point, the slide maker is done and you can start making slides.

also note, the distance where the allen key piece is situated. if it is too far left, you will struggle to remove the turned slide.
if it is too far right, the shaft will not move away enough for you to remove the slide.
the distance on mine:
allen tip to the left is 25 mm. allen tip to the right is 40mm

it must be added, that when the handle is hanging the allen piece is on the top which allows for the easy fitting of the steel wire between shaft and allen steel bracket.

Attachment: WP_20160501_018.jpg (Downloaded 1397 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 04:21 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so right, now you can start to turn your own slides.

if you don't have a steel work bench like me, then you will need to drill 2x holes in the base of the steel. you would then need to fix the slide maker on the side of a work bench as the handle moves past the bottom of the slide maker.

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
right.
looking at this, you will see the wire is placed at and angle.
if the wire was placed straight, you will battle to clip the slide in.

Attachment: WP_20160501_024.jpg (Downloaded 1402 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
right from there keep pressure down on the spring steel wire and start turning that handle.
as you start turning you can now start moving the wire at 90 degree to the shaft.
look closely at the spacing when turning.
seen here a 4 turn slide.

Attachment: WP_20160501_026.jpg (Downloaded 1399 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
you need to practice plenty as you need to end with the turn where both the wires align as can be seen here.

Attachment: WP_20160501_027.jpg (Downloaded 1401 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
from here on its your decision how long you want the back end turn.
I use a standard plier to grab hold and then bend the wire.
thus I have a uniform spacing.

Attachment: WP_20160501_028.jpg (Downloaded 1394 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so with the bend at about 90 degrees. you then need to choose the length of the front section.
you can then cut it off.
there is not a standard length that I use.
if you are going to silver solder the wire then you can cut it much shorter.
if you don't have a flame, then cut it off longer.

Attachment: WP_20160501_031.jpg (Downloaded 1391 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so decide if you want to fit a weight or not.
it is your choice. slide the weight up the shat of the slide.

now you can fit the front tip back into the slide maker on the longer slide "the one you will not be welding"
now make 1 turn on the slide maker.
the protruding piece of wire might catch on the bottom, but a 65% will be enough.

I did not fit a weight on this slide.
2mm is quite heavy and do you really need the weight?

Attachment: WP_20160501_032.jpg (Downloaded 1394 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
if you want to, fit your swivel if you want to.
the top slide will be silver soldered thus the short section on the tip.
the down side to silver solder is that there is plenty of heat and it could damage the swivel.

Attachment: WP_20160501_033.jpg (Downloaded 820 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 03:44 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
if no silver soldering, do the following.
place the slide into the work bench clamps.
and do not pinch the swivel.

Attachment: WP_20160501_034.jpg (Downloaded 821 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
now make 2 turns or even three. the more turns you make the heavier the slide will become.

then make a z bend in the wire, just like one would make with steel trace wire.

Attachment: WP_20160501_036.jpg (Downloaded 820 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
now turn the z bend until it breaks of cleanly. make sure there are no sharp edges!!!!

Attachment: WP_20160501_039.jpg (Downloaded 818 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
n here the 2 slides.
1 for silver solder "bottom" the top one don't need it.

Attachment: WP_20160501_040.jpg (Downloaded 819 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
so from here, place the clip end into the slide maker 2mm hole.
you need to see that the length is not to short.
thus the slide turns need to be parallel with the slide shaft.
then make a 90degree bend in the wire.

Attachment: WP_20160501_041.jpg (Downloaded 815 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here the 90 degree bend visible.
now cut the clip to the distance which you want it to be.
make sure the tip has no sharp edges.

Attachment: WP_20160501_042.jpg (Downloaded 817 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
now place the tip back into the slide maker 2mm hole and bend closed.

Attachment: WP_20160501_045.jpg (Downloaded 815 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
there you are!!!

if you want to you can make a bend in the shaft of the slide.
straight or bend, it will work.
the bending I have found assists in the keeping away of trace line from your main line.
so go catch some fish and post them pics here on sealine

Attachment: WP_20160501_047.jpg (Downloaded 814 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 03:59 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
now I have 2 slide makers.
ma was nie baie impressed met my nie.

hoekom jy alweer n skroewe draaier mos o***k sal net jy weet.

Toemaar my engel, dis vir n goeie doel op Sealine!!!

Attachment: WP_20160501_048.jpg (Downloaded 811 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
right some other aspects.
your turned slide and shaft needs to be in line. thus parallel in all aspects.

Attachment: WP_20160427_017.jpg (Downloaded 811 times)

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 04:02 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
as seen from the front.
the slide tunnel and shaft here is still off at a degree

Attachment: WP_20160427_021.jpg (Downloaded 813 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here a 3/4 ounce weight was added for you to see.
3/4 ounce is quite heavy.

Attachment: WP_20160427_026.jpg (Downloaded 812 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
nog n ding is:

if turned the slide too far on the 4th turn "over coocked it" then you can just use some pliers to turn it back.
when the turn is too short, pliers will not allow you to turn the slide further.
you will use side cutters on 2mm wire.
the problem is that you might damage the smoothness of the slide with the side cutter.

so make sure you turn the slide till the two ends align.


if something is not quite clear, please do ask them questions.

happy turning!!!!

Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2016 04:50 pm by willem wikkel spies

J_Bay
Sealiner


Joined: Thu Jan 22nd, 2009
Location: Durban, KZN, South Africa, South Africa
Posts: 2368
Equipment: Saltist 50,Exage 1468, Blue Marlin G3 2-4oz,Grandwave 40
Best Catch: 6KG Spotted Grunter, 3.2KG Bronze Bream/Bluefish
Favorite Fishing Spot: Where the fishes are at!!!!
Boat: None
Club: No
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Do you think it would ok if I made the little frame out of wood? I don't have welding stuff...And I can't weld anyway.

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
J_Bay wrote:
Do you think it would ok if I made the little frame out of wood? I don't have welding stuff...And I can't weld anyway.

I really don't know but don't think so.

I do realise that many guys don't have welding equipment or contacts to get it build.

so lets see how many guys would want one.
I can always build some and send them to you!

who is interested?

Last edited on Mon May 2nd, 2016 01:15 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
i did not forget about the stopper rings.
I have a idea or 2, but usually I would use tig wire here for stopper rings as tig wire bends very easy.

on the stopper ring I would use 2,4mm tig welding rods.
depending on size, I would clamp the tig welding rod tip onto a 14mkm steel round bar.
from there I would turn it by hand.
then when all is done I would cut trough all the rings with the small angle grinder, fit swivels and then silver solder them closed.

I like a big stopper ring.
but 12mm steel round bar will work as that is double the slide inside diameter.
you will never pull a slide over a stopper ring

Dr halibut hoffman
Moderator


Joined: Wed Sep 16th, 2009
Location: Cape, South Africa
Posts: 2747
Equipment: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...
Best Catch: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...145cm FL Leervis released (Shore), 80kg+ yellowfin (Boat). 83cm Cracker. ...
Favorite Fishing Spot: Kranse en diepsee!
Boat: 15' Skicraft cat.Canoe. Crew on Buttcats.
Club: Ike jime,no club
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
My Gallery: 
Wow, that is an awesome guide Willem! Well done and thanks for taking the time..

capetonian
Member


Joined: Tue Dec 7th, 2010
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia Canada
Posts: 257
Equipment: 13' poseidon rod -Saltist BG 50H- Daiwa 50 shv, ...
Best Catch: 6kg, 49cm bloukop, 91 cm red drum
Favorite Fishing Spot: 13' poseidon rod -Saltist BG 50H- Daiwa 50 shv, ...langebaan, Struisbaai, Suiderstrand , Roll over pass , Port Aransas ...
Boat: no
Club: no
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Excellent!


With time on hand we may give it a go. Easy to follow instructions.

Well done!

Inlander375
Member


Joined: Tue Jan 19th, 2016
Location: Pietersburg, South Africa
Posts: 42
Equipment: Saltiga50 &40,Torium50,SL2020,GW40,,Rappie.Waft Ultra Light
Best Catch: 45kg Striped Marlin,18kg Karp
Favorite Fishing Spot: Struisbaai
Boat: Not yet
Club: No
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Great post,dankie Willem.

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
right manne:

gou gekyk na pryse.
indien ek die slide makers uit stainless staal sou maak, is die kostes so R 300 elk.
dit sal posgeld insluit "posgeld op n R100 gereken"

die raam sal wees uit 40mm* 5mm
6mm stainless shaft
10mm stainless handle.
welding sal stainless staal wees.

ek gaan nie die goed polish nie.
dis n ander ding daai

geweone staal werk goedkoper uit.
maar gaan roes.

onthou net, stain less steel beteken nie roes vry nie, dit beteken stain less!!

Jakes 10
Sealiner


Joined: Fri Sep 23rd, 2011
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Posts: 927
Equipment: Bass and saltwater.
Best Catch: +- 6kg Wit Steenbras
Favorite Fishing Spot: Rusties and Kidd's Beach
Boat: Boatless :(
Club: No
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Baie dankie vir die post!!! Gaan dit 'n go gee.

Fishpaste
Sealiner


Joined: Mon Oct 1st, 2012
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 1737
Equipment: Shim.Tribal Long-range, Ultegra 14000 XSC, DC Ovals
Best Catch: Carp, Cats, Bass, Kurper
Favorite Fishing Spot: Vaalriver
Boat: Not any more
Club: 
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
willem wikkel spies wrote:
right manne:

gou gekyk na pryse.
indien ek die slide makers uit stainless staal sou maak, is die kostes so R 300 elk.
dit sal posgeld insluit "posgeld op n R100 gereken"

Great post and great gesture I think!

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Hi Willem , my name is Billy Burger , i have a video clip of another type non return clip i want to send it does not want to load help please

Shady
Member


Joined: Sat Mar 24th, 2007
Location: Durban, South Africa
Posts: 123
Equipment: Custom built carbon/Graphite/poseidon/Elbe,Daiwa30/50,Grandwave50/Saltist50,Maxima.11Ft Assasin Amia,shimano Exage 5000 and Valiant ATC ...
Best Catch: .
Favorite Fishing Spot: Umkomaas/cuttings/Transkei & wherever its happening.
Boat: Used to be called JAAN
Club: Usharka Angling Club
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Hello willem . It was interesting. thank you for sharing. That was very nice of you.

Then again at least you have the time and tools.
I rather buy them and spend more time fishing.((goodp_::slr::

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Billy Burger wrote:
Hi Willem , my name is Billy Burger , i have a video clip of another type non return clip i want to send it does not want to load help please

Billy

You will have to post it on you tube and then post the link here.


@guys:
I called the stainless steel suppliers in Nigel.
They did not have stock of the steel I wanted.
Will see if I can get lucky later during this week.

Things are hectic at work, and I am self employed.

so werk is eerste, dan speelgoed.

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Thanks Willem will do that ._seal1_

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
https://youtu.be/Tg-ai7rc1Ns

Here is the link for the slide .

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Hope this video can help a few of you guys , it can save a lot of money in the long run for every one that likes to do slide fishing

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
https://youtu.be/6mvuRHpJW8k

Here is another video of the normal non return clip ,i have this jig as well .

Kaapsedraai
Member


Joined: Sun May 22nd, 2016
Location: George, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Shimano
Best Catch: 34 KG Dusky Cob
Favorite Fishing Spot: Wilderness
Boat: NA
Club: NA
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
((goodp_

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Billy Burger wrote:
https://youtu.be/Tg-ai7rc1Ns

Here is the link for the slide .


ok. this slide maker is the one that does not clip open.
its a nightmare to take your main line out of it.

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Billy Burger wrote:
https://youtu.be/6mvuRHpJW8k

Here is another video of the normal non return clip ,i have this jig as well .


weet ou dupzn se dinge werk ook.
maar hoe julle die draaie op die master gaan kry weet ek nie.

elkeen op sy eie.

met my jig kan jy draaie op mekaar maak, of baie ver uit mekaar uit.

dit alles hang af cvan jou hand vaardighede.

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Willem ja myne het ek n coach boud gevat een groot een die thread in hom gee hom eweredige spasieeering en ek het een wat glad is dat jy kan nader draaie draai .

Jammer ek vat so lank om te antwoord , ek werk in Ghana Afrika ons is twee uure agter SA ,ek kom oor twee weeke SA toe op my verlof dan gaan ek Suid kus toe . Ek kom net elke ses maande huistoe vir drie weeke .

DYRI
Member


Joined: Mon Dec 16th, 2013
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Posts: 66
Equipment: Stradic C5000xg--Ultegra 5500xsc--Fin Nor LTC30H--Pioneer HMG Heavy&Med--Assassin Amia H
Best Catch: I'm still trying to reel it in ;)
Favorite Fishing Spot: Breede River, Witsands rocks, South/Wild coast
Boat: None
Club: No
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Billy Burger wrote:
https://youtu.be/Tg-ai7rc1Ns

Here is the link for the slide .


Nice Billy, thanks a lot, what was that tool used to make the coils, and where can one find one in Pretoria?

Last edited on Thu May 26th, 2016 10:26 pm by DYRI

Billy Burger
Member


Joined: Mon May 16th, 2016
Location: Krugersdorp, South Africa
Posts: 7
Equipment: Waft iron feather , Waft shark rods , Daiwa SL ...
Best Catch: Salmon 10 kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: South Coast , Sandspits
Boat: non
Club: non
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Hi Dyri

The tool i copied from the video don't know if you can buy it any where , took some time to design , made a few adjustments and works great .

Billy .

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Right.
Have been busy this week in making slide makers for those of you that do not have equipment to make them.

as stated, all are made of stainless steel.

please note, that I will only be making 10 of them.
the time and effort is not the money worth.

to me it is not about the money.
it allows me more time to play with steel, be it stainless or mild.

in this exercise I used my steel metal lathe and tig welder.

so through playing, im learning.

I thought about making a slide maker with 2x shafts, which will enable you to turn a smaller diameter slide.

this would need some thinking.

what I did do, was to take different wire sizes being, 0.9mm, 1,6 mm and 2mm

all turned on the same slide maker.

the results are the same, and thus a 2nd shaft system would not be needed.

so please find a pic of the newly made slide makers.

if interested, please contact Pottie: 08 three 7 seven 8 2 two 88

Last edited on Mon Jun 6th, 2016 06:24 pm by willem wikkel spies

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here is 7 of the 10.

Attachment: IMG_3465.JPG (Downloaded 343 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
here are the slides turned using different steel wire diameter.

Attachment: IMG_3468.JPG (Downloaded 342 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
same slide maker.

Attachment: IMG_3467.JPG (Downloaded 341 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
only 2 left.

not making anymore, sorry guys.

ok 1 if Pieter does not take his

PietervdM04
Member


Joined: Sun Sep 10th, 2017
Location: Roodepoort, South Africa
Posts: 49
Equipment: Saltiga, Trinidad, Purglass
Best Catch: Raggie, 216cm, 189kg
Favorite Fishing Spot: Struisbaai
Boat: No
Club: JHB Coastal Angling
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Willem

Ek vat een asb. Laat weet ook wanneer jy die draad kry asb.

Onthou van die wiele wat ek jou gevra het asb.

Dankie vir die moeite

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
draad is hier, PM gestuur.

Moet nog kyk na daai wiele.

Was wild die laaste paar weke met al die see trips

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Hey Chaps

I would like some feedback on this.

I see it has been viewed a bucket full...

Would you guys please just give some feedback if possible.

I would like to know, how many of you have made it and using it etc.

was there any other aspects you could better it?

thanks

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
a year later and nearly 25000 views, but not much feedback from the folk :(

roofkykers!!!! lol

ive been playing around with my own.
I have managed to get the slides much smaller.
with winding much closer spaced.
ag dis lekker om te speel.

let me post a newly turned slide, then you guys can compare them

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
ok, compare it to a normal big lighter

Attachment: IMG_2678.JPG (Downloaded 113 times)

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
another view.
also no soldering/ welding needed.
just turn wire 90 degrees and trun it off.

they still need to be finalized on the clipping bend.

Attachment: IMG_2680.JPG (Downloaded 113 times)

Dr halibut hoffman
Moderator


Joined: Wed Sep 16th, 2009
Location: Cape, South Africa
Posts: 2747
Equipment: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...
Best Catch: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...145cm FL Leervis released (Shore), 80kg+ yellowfin (Boat). 83cm Cracker. ...
Favorite Fishing Spot: Kranse en diepsee!
Boat: 15' Skicraft cat.Canoe. Crew on Buttcats.
Club: Ike jime,no club
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
My Gallery: 
Those are neat bud! Still such a great tutorial..What wire do you use these days?

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
Those are neat bud! Still such a great tutorial..What wire do you use these days?

dankie man.
I wonder how many was made?
apart from my 10

I prefer 1,6 mm stainless steel spring wire.
it works much easier and the big thing is, no welding needed at the front.

I still have 2mm stainless spring steel wire, but they are a bugger to work with on the tight small corners "bends"

Dr halibut hoffman
Moderator


Joined: Wed Sep 16th, 2009
Location: Cape, South Africa
Posts: 2747
Equipment: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...
Best Catch: Shimano, daiwa, a finnor and an elbe.. The rest died. ...145cm FL Leervis released (Shore), 80kg+ yellowfin (Boat). 83cm Cracker. ...
Favorite Fishing Spot: Kranse en diepsee!
Boat: 15' Skicraft cat.Canoe. Crew on Buttcats.
Club: Ike jime,no club
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
My Gallery: 
Shot bud..

BigBen
Sealiner


Joined: Mon Jun 8th, 2009
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 8041
Equipment: Shimano Tor 20 Tor 16,Rovex Boss 4000,12ft Loomis shockwave, 13.6ft ...
Best Catch: 18.8kg Kob
Favorite Fishing Spot: Dis nou 'n Geheim
Boat: NONE Boating
Club: 
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
willem wikkel spies wrote:
a year later and nearly 25000 views, but not much feedback from the folk :(

roofkykers!!!! lol

ive been playing around with my own.
I have managed to get the slides much smaller.
with winding much closer spaced.
ag dis lekker om te speel.

let me post a newly turned slide, then you guys can compare them


Hi Willem.

I Bought some wire from you last year and now succesfully making the Australian slide with it as you don't have to wind the line in place to get the slide on the line.

Dankie dit werk uitstekend

Attachment: Aus_Slide.png (Downloaded 75 times)

BigBen
Sealiner


Joined: Mon Jun 8th, 2009
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 8041
Equipment: Shimano Tor 20 Tor 16,Rovex Boss 4000,12ft Loomis shockwave, 13.6ft ...
Best Catch: 18.8kg Kob
Favorite Fishing Spot: Dis nou 'n Geheim
Boat: NONE Boating
Club: 
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
I put a bead under the coils to prevent possible callapse should a larger fish pick me up.;)

The lead part of the slider is bent as yours where the weight is. Gonna do some this weekend with lead weights.

Last edited on Fri Oct 5th, 2018 01:30 pm by BigBen

willem wikkel spies
Moderator


Joined: Tue Apr 29th, 2008
Location: Heidelberg, South Africa
Posts: 4322
Equipment: ekt geleer net die beste werk.............................
Best Catch: eish waar begin ek?
Favorite Fishing Spot: noord van die tugela is goed genoeg
Boat: Sea Cat 565 75hp yammies
Club: nooooit nie
Status: 
Offline
Mana: 
BigBen wrote:
willem wikkel spies wrote:
a year later and nearly 25000 views, but not much feedback from the folk :(

roofkykers!!!! lol

ive been playing around with my own.
I have managed to get the slides much smaller.
with winding much closer spaced.
ag dis lekker om te speel.

let me post a newly turned slide, then you guys can compare them


Hi Willem.

I Bought some wire from you last year and now succesfully making the Australian slide with it as you don't have to wind the line in place to get the slide on the line.

Dankie dit werk uitstekend


yip they do work well.

only problem is when you need to unwind it.
you need slack on both sides.

could be tricky initially.

once mastered all is good.
lekker thing about this type of slide is no stupid bends in tight corners.