Galjoen 2022

Fly-aholic

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Marthin wrote:
DJP wrote:
Marthin wrote:
DJP ek kannie fout vind met die adrenaline circles nie. Sover hou dit alles wat dit haak.

Niks fout met daai circles nie, ek het al met hulle gehengel. Ek hou net nie van die "klein" gap nie, so buig hulle so bietjie oop, maar persoonlike ding. Ek het eintlik ophou gallies hengel met circles maar hier is orals sulke kort bamboesies wat in die sloepe groei en as jou lyn aan dit raak dan trek die besigheid die J hoeks vinnig vas.
Sien die probleem op laagwater en dis waar die gallie op hoog swem..
Maak sin.  Ek hengel ook maar circles vir dieselfde rede... Verder suidkaap toe is dit die alewige rooiaasbanke... en as daardie j hook eers mooi n rooiaastiet gehaak het is uitkry nie n opsie nie, so circles maar daar vir alles behalwe krakers.  Ek krakers en circles is nettie chommies nie

Martin, het jy gesien hoe vang hulle krakers in PE met circles, Franna van Zyl? Glo 'n baie goeie suksesvolle 'hoekup rate'.
 

Fly-aholic

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DJP wrote:
Fly-aholic wrote:
Gents,

Seeing that we are on the Gallie topic. Where can I get sand redbait here in Cape Town? No problems taking out myself on spring low tide. Or if someone is selling, I am interested.

Regards,
Pierre

Next week Thursday there should be some bait washing out at the main spots. Wednesday swell +3,5m so the see should be fairly strong.

Dankie, maar my tyd is tot naweke beperk ou maat. Dit lyk na mossel en moonshine vir my.
So as een van julle manne sand rooiaas het om te verkoop, praat asb.
 

Marthin

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Het dit al gesien, Wikus ook al mooies so gekry... My hookup rate met circle sover met kraker 1 uit 5 en daai een die circle mooi reguit gemaak.

Hookup rate met VMC jigging assist 9/0 is sover 8/9 en geen hoek reguit of gebuig nie.

Met miskien 1 kraker trip n jaar speel ek nou nie meer met 'n 20% hookup rate nie. I confess dit is operator error maar dit werk maar vir my.
 

Fly-aholic

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Marthin wrote:
Het dit al gesien, Wikus ook al mooies so gekry... My hookup rate met circle sover met kraker 1 uit 5 en daai een die circle mooi reguit gemaak.

Hookup rate met VMC jigging assist 9/0 is sover 8/9 en geen hoek reguit of gebuig nie.

Met miskien 1 kraker trip n jaar speel ek nou nie meer met 'n 20% hookup rate nie. I confess dit is operator error maar dit werk maar vir my.

Stem saam, wanneer ons so min hengel en 'trial and error' is nie 'n opsie nie, dan gaan ek ook met wat werk.
 
That VMC hook is gold..but brittle so watch that tip not chipped off..the 9/0 I catch big tuna with LOL, the smaller one, I think the 4/0 is my best scratching hook by a long margin...hooks anything even peckers, but when that cracker comes along you can rely on him..nice incurve point as well so like a circle less likely to snag..
 

Marthin

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Dr halibut hoffman wrote:
That VMC hook is gold..but brittle so watch that tip not chipped off..the 9/0 I catch big tuna with LOL, the smaller one, I think the 4/0 is my best scratching hook by a long margin...hooks anything even peckers, but when that cracker comes along you can rely on him..nice incurve point as well so like a circle less likely to snag..
100% you need to check the point after every cast, they tend to bend the tip easily but yes about the acting like a circle, the hookups have so far all except 1 been in the corner of the mouth.  I have not come across a sharper hook, and i usually end up with a few cuts or holes when tying traces.  With the point and eye nearly in line i found them the best for crab presentation, with the hook eye almost level with where the legs start, while the point is right above the middle of the crab.
 

Tappit

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ek gebruik maar hierdie rooi nr1, te klein vir vashaak aan bamboes
 

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Bloks

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Blanked in Betties...Water was cold yes. But better than a day at work. Next week its Pearly Beach and Franskraal.


Tight lines to all
 

Fly-aholic

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Tappit wrote:
ek gebruik maar hierdie rooi nr1, te klein vir vashaak aan bamboes

Tappit- I use the black coloured hook in 1/0 size and it hooks everything, from very small fish to large and they are dead cheap. They do get blunt quicker than other circles, however with the bent in point much better than J-hooks.
I have been a staunch BKK supporter, specifically due to the wider gape. However, I cannot fault these hooks as I have not seen a reduction in hook-up rate using the Adrenalin circles. The primary issue is match the hook to target species and match hook to bait. For Gallies I use small white mussels and the large mussels I cut in half.
The Mustad Demon Circle Fine Wire in #1 and 1/0 is still the best hook due to its fine wire, strength and wider gape, but for kelp areas and plenty structure (normally rooiaas koppe), the Adrenaline gets stuck much less due to the smaller gape. With the Adrenalin's smaller gape I normally go 1 size up compared to the Mustad, which increases the gape for better hook-up, but not as much as the Mustad. For sandy bottoms, there is no beating the Mustad fine wire hook.
 

Marthin

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Fly-aholic wrote:
Tappit wrote:
ek gebruik maar hierdie rooi nr1, te klein vir vashaak aan bamboes

Tappit- I use the black coloured hook in 1/0 size and it hooks everything, from very small fish to large and they are dead cheap. They do get blunt quicker than other circles, however with the bent in point much better than J-hooks.
I have been a staunch BKK supporter, specifically due to the wider gape. However, I cannot fault these hooks as I have not seen a reduction in hook-up rate using the Adrenalin circles. The primary issue is match the hook to target species and match hook to bait. For Gallies I use small white mussels and the large mussels I cut in half.
The Mustad Demon Circle Fine Wire in #1 and 1/0 is still the best hook due to its fine wire, strength and wider gape, but for kelp areas and plenty structure (normally rooiaas koppe), the Adrenaline gets stuck much less due to the smaller gape. With the Adrenalin's smaller gape I normally go 1 size up compared to the Mustad, which increases the gape for better hook-up, but not as much as the Mustad. For sandy bottoms, there is no beating the Mustad fine wire hook.
I have to say i also like the finewires, however over the years i have bent open 1 or 2 if you have to force the fish.  I specifically used the adrenalines recently in the southern cape because they are a stronger hook and the locations i was fishing, you have to stop the fish almost dead on the first run, and then play it once it is over the reef.  Also always the the possibility of a "lastige" cracker deciding to take your nicely presented galjoen bait, and those straighten a finewire in the blink of an eye.  Discussed the options with Rean aka Stinkmossel and decided on the adrenaline circles.  Worked out fine for me
 

DJP

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I was tying rigs the other night and had to explain to my wife why I had so many different types of hooks.
Mustad fine wire circles... hartseer hoeke, you will love them because they hook fish well, but as much as you love them that day will come when you hook a big gallie or cracker on them and you will be left with a toothpick... been there done that too many times. I still use them on light tackle or in estuaries.
Adrenalin circles... sukkel hoeke, eish that gap and bend... I know many people fish with them but I have had some fish flatten me without hooking up. Started opening them a bit and they were working fine, but still got outfished by they guys using J hooks. The way I prefer to fish also doesn't bode well with these hooks, my baits are just to big, on these best use long slim baits with a float on one side (so the fish bites the other end where the hooks is).
Gamakatsu (and Owners)... duur hoeke... I'm not using these near kelp or heavy foul spots, at R7-R10 a hook it's just no worth it. But a 4/0 Gama trout salmon does not miss a fish, and if there is a chance of a big fish you can feel safe that it should do the job.
Old mustad silver bait holder hooks... wurm hoeke... I don't fish with worms that often but those hooks (2/0 or 3/0) are best for moonshine and wonder worm. They sometimes just need a bit of sharpening out of the box. For bloodworm use the 5/0 Gama trout salmon.
Chinu hooks... best alraound shape imo... it doesn't really matter if it's BKK, Mustad, VMC these hooks are designed by the Japs to catch Chinu / sea bream i.e. similar to blacktail.
Obviously some others as well like Landit (lekker cheap, but quality not always great), Daicchi (roes hoeke, but the are sharp and strong), fly hooks (if you fish light tackle with prawns or worms).
 

Tappit

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Bloks wrote:
Blanked in Betties...Water was cold yes. But better than a day at work. Next week its Pearly Beach and Franskraal.


Tight lines to all


Bloks, ek het gister middag laat 'n mooi kabeljou gekry by Betties, Die water is nog bietjie koud, ons kort 'n lekker storm om die water om te krap en al die bamboes uit te spoel., maar daar was bietjie kleur wat my laat besluit het om te gaan . Baie klein steenbrassies wat jou aas afbyt, ek dink hulle noem dit "sand steenbras",
 

Fly-aholic

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DJP wrote:
I was tying rigs the other night and had to explain to my wife why I had so many different types of hooks.
Mustad fine wire circles... hartseer hoeke, you will love them because they hook fish well, but as much as you love them that day will come when you hook a big gallie or cracker on them and you will be left with a toothpick... been there done that too many times. I still use them on light tackle or in estuaries.
Adrenalin circles... sukkel hoeke, eish that gap and bend... I know many people fish with them but I have had some fish flatten me without hooking up. Started opening them a bit and they were working fine, but still got outfished by they guys using J hooks. The way I prefer to fish also doesn't bode well with these hooks, my baits are just to big, on these best use long slim baits with a float on one side (so the fish bites the other end where the hooks is).
Gamakatsu (and Owners)... duur hoeke... I'm not using these near kelp or heavy foul spots, at R7-R10 a hook it's just no worth it. But a 4/0 Gama trout salmon does not miss a fish, and if there is a chance of a big fish you can feel safe that it should do the job.
Old mustad silver bait holder hooks... wurm hoeke... I don't fish with worms that often but those hooks (2/0 or 3/0) are best for moonshine and wonder worm. They sometimes just need a bit of sharpening out of the box. For bloodworm use the 5/0 Gama trout salmon.
Chinu hooks... best alraound shape imo... it doesn't really matter if it's BKK, Mustad, VMC these hooks are designed by the Japs to catch Chinu / sea bream i.e. similar to blacktail.
Obviously some others as well like Landit (lekker cheap, but quality not always great), Daicchi (roes hoeke, but the are sharp and strong), fly hooks (if you fish light tackle with prawns or worms).

Hi DJP,
What is the code of the Gama salmon/trout hooks?
 

SPARRABOS

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My galjoen hoek.. En kraker hoek.... 8 rand pakkie.... Nog nooit gebreek.. As punt stomp is gooi weg bind nuwe aan... Gallie deur kaak... Kraker in lip.. Hy gaan huis toe....2 x soyi... Lekker vir drel of Pol van daai bosaas....Vang Roman wildeperd poensies ook in winter met dit tussen gallies
 

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Fly-aholic

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SPARRABOS wrote:
Sal soms n 3 nul gooi... Soms 4 nul

Sparra- al vergeet die groot hoeke waarmee ons Gallies in die Baai gevang het. Ek het nooit kleiner as 2/0 gehengel nie, meestal 3/0 baitholder hoeke.

Hier in die Kaap as jy 2/0 gooi dan is die hoek groter as die Gallie se kop:hyst:
 
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