Float fishing baits for carp!

Lunker

Senior Member
When ever someone mentions bait for carp everyones head spins and ten million million theory's and types of bait gets mentioned. I am going to keep it as basic as possible and discuss a few baits thats should be tried at some point or another. Venue plays a big roll because not every venue is the same as the next, different baits work for different waters basically.

The whole idea is to try and keep it as simple and plain as possible. When fishing static or specimen as we all know it by you need to make big amounts of feed and then of course you get your hook baits. Boilies is a huge industry in South Africa now and will be for many years to come. With float fishing you can use boilies but max size is 14mm and you do not need 50 different flavours, its kept as simple as possible because you move around alot to target the carp and you cannot make a big feeding area and sit there the whole day because then you may as well fish static and leave the floats at home.

Bellow is a few deadly baits for float fishing and a brief discussion on each. Keep in mind that as an angler you need to always draw the fish into your swim by means of pre feeding  but with this method you only need a few handfuls and not 5kg!

Pre feed

There is so many kinds of bait that can be used for pre feeding, hemp, maples, tigers nuts and the list can go on. The idea is to keep the carp there long enough to find your hook bait and hopefully you get a take so what is the best pre feed for float fishing?

[shadow=darkred]Pellets![/shadow]

Currently in this country there are so few suppliers of proper pellets that it does make it difficult to use them and that is mainly because of price but they definately make the difference. When feeding pellets all you need is a couple of handfulls chucked out about 5m from the bank to 3 different areas that look carpy to you and then of course there is the best sign and that is hundreds of bubbles. Remember that if you see bubbles DO NOT FEED to that spot yet! You will chase the carp out the swim, rather just drop your float with hook baits to that area.

The advantage of pellets is that they swell in the water and release whatever

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attractant they have and once the carp start feeding they break up totally into a powder and keep the carp busy for quite a while. This is one item that you must never leave home without.

The other baits that can be fed is pieces of bread but remember to squash it so that it sinks. Try and match your hook bait to what you are feeding. In the case of pellets you do get soft hooker pellets and that will be discussed under the bait section.

Hook Baits

There are hundreds of different kinds of hooks available on the market and most of them work but there is no better bait then the old piece of white or brown bread when float fishing.

Bread for some or other reason is mothers milk to carp and no matter where you are float fishing it would account for most of your catches. The size of bread you use as hook bait is entirely up to you. I fish with hair rigsand make the bread into a paste and wrap it around the hair and use a piece of tooth pick to secure the bread. Guaranteed hook up every time because the hook is exposed. Will discuss bait presentation in another thread.

Bellow is a list and pictures of other baits that work for float fishing.

Soft hook pellets

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Corn. The best form of this bait is fresh off the cob, the attractant values are much higher then that of the bottled bought ones. Remember palin is better.

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Bellow is a picture of 2 of the deadliest baits together, this is all you need to have a cracker of a day.

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Boilies!

A white boilie or a boilie that has the same colouration as brown or white bread would be the best option because you know that bread works but the bread comes off very easily and you can go through a loaf in no time so the next best thing is use a hair rig and have your bait stay on 10 times longer. One boilie can catch you at 3 to 4 carp before it needs to be removed for a fresher one. My last session I made a white coconut boilie and it worked like a bomb!

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I really hope this will help as far as baits go for float fishing. Like I said there are hundreds of different kninds of baits and feeds you can use but fishing in this country is more simpler then in Europe and of course the factor that always comes in is the availabilty and cost of these top baits.

Seriously guys, give the boilies a shot next time you go float fish!
 

Ryan

Sealiner
Awesome post there SAH....
Manna agian for a brilliant post....
Glad to see you have learned the ropes with posting multiple pics in the threads.
Onwards and upwards
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Ryan, need to ask a stupid question. What is mana boet? Sounds idible, I will have it thanks. LOL.

The threads are very basic but will hopefully help guys out.

As far as the pics go, serious crash course but it worked.

 

 
 

Ryan

Sealiner
At the bottom of my profile place your mouse on my mana tab and "Click" it. CLick the "Add mana" and you will make my mana bar grow...............;)

Mana is given to another member by members for Quality informative posts, respect etc.....
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Ooooohhhhhhh! An old dog can still learn tricks. I tested and gave you mana, it was a valid because you gave me valuable info about the mana...hahahahahaha.:fbash
 

100% African

Senior Member
Gerat post. Very informative... Will be going to try float fishing on the weekend of the 4/5 July. Until then, learning all I can and buying all the outstanding gear I need. How about a post on reels... thanks... have some mana!
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Thanks100%.

Good luck for the session, if you need my help at anytime give me a call. I will try explain to the best of my abilities over the phone.

I will PM my cell to you.

One bit of advice, start with white bread!
 

Naruto

Sealiner
Thanks for all the info! I learn new things everyday. The stuff you mention can also be used in other facets of angling. I also use brown bread made into a paste as a backing for my floaties.

I have a question: What is this high attract paste that I have heard of a few times already?
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Its a paste that is wrapped around boilies as extra atractant mainly in winter because you dont feed as much. It generally has a very strong smell, stronger then most baits.

It can be made from many items. The one i make is from bread, 50/50 boilie mix, egg, EAS Myoplex (Protien drink for Bodybuilders). The flavours I prefer are coconut and vanilla mix, or garlic and shrimp paste.

If it lies in the water for a long time it breaks up and surrounds your hook bait with a very high attractant.

Basically it is almost exactly the same as your bread pastes you buy from MG or other south african bait manufacturers.

It is the prefered bait for float fishing because of the softness and you get hooks up much easier. The whole idea is that you get one chance when your floats lifts or is pulled under and if you have a harder bait on your hook you mite strike miss and pull the hook right out the carps mouth.

I will do a small article on pastes for float fishing in the next few days.
 

DJP

Sealiner
pietdj, Lunker is vir 'n tydjie al offline so neem aan hy gaan nie kan trug kom na jou toe nie.

Pellets kan by pet shop gekoop word of as jy by 'n landbou korporasie iets kan kry sal dit werk. As die pellets hard is hair rigs die beste.

Trout/koi pellets werk baie goed. As jy dit wil gebruik as voer moet jy dit net eers in 'n bak water gooi totdat dit sink anders mag dit weg dryf. Eksperimenteer 'n bietjie en kyk wat werk die beste vir jou in die damme waar jy hengel. Nuwe aas werk soms nie van die begin af goed nie, maar as die vis dit eers gewoond is mag dit baie beloned wees.
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Sorry for replying so late, I get my pellets from a pet shop up the road from my work. They are called duck pellets. They are 60% corn and the barbel dont feed on them because there is no fishmeal or hemp in them them and the carp love them. What I do is take 1kg and lay them out on a huge tray and spray them down with concentrated flavours like banana, strawberry and my favourite coconut essence. It cost about R100 for 10kg and with match fishing that size bag will last you months.

DJP, Im back online again. Just had to get settled in the new job. Glad to see this thread is doing well and the interest is growing. My offer is still up if anyone wants to join me for a match session (Guys in JHB)

DJP ive made some new wagglers from balsa wood, post pics sometime soon.

 
 

DJP

Sealiner
Hey Lunker, glad your back 'cause I'm currently sitting in Washington DC so wont be fishing for fishing for atleast 4 more months, I'l be watching the post though!
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
hey lunker, thanks for another awesome thread on float fishing. i've never tried it myself, but i'm getting the necessary tackle together to give it a shot some time soon.

have some mana, brilliant posts!
 

Lunker

Senior Member
Its great to be back.

Thanks for the mana. Sat last night going through all my tackle and decided to try out DJP's way and convert my 9wt fly rod into a float rod, I have a 14ft wagler rod that weighs a bit heavier then a bass rod but I want to try the light weight stuff. I love fly flyfishing and have caught a few carp on fly rod but nothing over 6kg's so I want to try and get some bigger stuff on ultra light tackle.

 
 
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