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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2007 01:31 pm
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hey there guys

i was watching esa the other day and saw something they use for trolling called the magic lip.

i was wondering why cant surf anglers use this as a lure for garrick kingies etc

from what i c we could be able to adapt alot of the deep sea tricks to work for rock and surf as well.

how do u feel about that,,and what other ideas do u have that may be used to surf anglers advantage.

 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2007 01:38 pm
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The lure is a metal lip like u find on rapalas etc and u slot it in the sardine mouth clip on the hooks and away u go.

thats a better discribtion of it .

 

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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2007 05:59 pm
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Howzit riymos,

It's called a "living lip". I use it on my boat. It wont really work for surf fishing because it is designed for trawling conditions. The shape and position of the lip creates a life-like movement on dead bait when trawling, therefore the bait has to be moving forward for the lip to work effectively.
The only way you could possibly make it work is if you use it on really small throw baits and reel them in quickly (much like spooning). It would be quite heavy to throw, though.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2007 06:14 pm
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thanks mournay

thats what i meant

i mean when the garick are running

instead of the jig and drop why not pin living lip and get in on the action beats having to jig and miss and continuous casting etc.

thanks.

do u know of any other techniques or magical tool deep sea guy have that we may be able to use on the surf with minor ajustments off course..

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 Posted: Fri Mar 16th, 2007 12:31 pm
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Hi riymos,

Did you watch ESA last night? On the Land Based Game feature they were using pink skirts and Couta dusters along with the slide baits to give colour and movement in flat water. We use those a lot when trawling for gamefish on the boats. I never thougt of using those for surf fishing. It's a really good idea as they certainly work for deep sea fishing.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 16th, 2007 12:35 pm
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howzit mournay

no man didnt get to watch

the dam storm ripped of part of my roof

virginia was hit bad boet tree fell on two cars in my drive way

so i didnt get a chance

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 02:20 pm
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Sorry to hear that, mate. That was a hectic storm! The Kloof area looked like a war zone on Friday morning. I was running around in that storm trying to get the boat cover on. It was crazy, man!

I see that there was quite a lot of damage and flooding again from yesterday's weather. Has anyone seen any reports on that lot? A colleague at work was telling me that some reef in deep water off Durban had some scary big wave action, apparently 30  to 50 foot swell.  Has anyone heard the same?
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 03:52 pm
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howzit mournay

sorry bru i havent heard anything about it

but i was away at the comp so maybe ill get some info a bit later

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 04:17 pm
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Mournay

I was watching early this morning with binocs, from upper morningside.

The waves were breaking out at No1 and beyond, so with a 5+metre swell, the waves could be 30+ feet when they peak.

Maybe this discussion should move to a thread of its own, being off-topic I mean!

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 04:45 pm
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Hi Mickjack,

You are 100% correct. It is slightly off topic, but it certainly is an interesting discussion, though. One doesn't get to see these things happening everyday (thank goodness). There are plenty of topics that have already started other than this one. We can continue them there.

Back to the original topic......

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 09:29 pm
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hey mournay

u think we can go out to sea tomorrow im sure i can get my hours logged

the sea so dam big we wont have to leave the habour mouth

lol hehehehe..::H

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 Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 10:06 am
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No problem. I reckon we wouldn't even need to launch the boat. We could have left it on the trailer and parked it somewhere on the beach front, perhaps in front of wimpy. You could have definitely logged some hours there last night!:D


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