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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 11:57 am
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Big G
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This weekend I am fishing my 1st offshore competition::S. Friday, Sat and Sunday off the EL coast. Will be launching from EL harbour and heading out to the reefs from Hickmans to Gulu. This is a edibles species only competition so I am going to target hopefully a big black steenbras. Each largest edible of each species earns you points. So shad, yellowbelly, blue fish, cob etc all earn points.

Any suggestions, ideas and tips for me? Will be using mostly chokka and pilchard as bait on my main rod and shad head on my second rod.  Will be using a similar two hook trace as "Hammertime" bottom trace. Most probably a 5.0 for top hook and 6.0 for bottom hook and sinker to match current.

Should I put out a livie if I pick up a small shad? Is it worthwhile trolling rapalas when moving between reefs and what could I pick up with it? Any help will be appreciated.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 12:10 pm
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Big G,
Is this the elsbc bonanza comp. Unfortunately, no leave to take so cant fish the friday. As for trolling around, not really worth it at this time of year, but may pick up a shad or 2 close to backline or behind the wall. What size boat you on. Most of the guys will be running to the banks/ shelf in hope of a big copper, lucy, dag or rock cod. Around hickmans, definately worth putting a small livey down, small shad or pinkie woprks great. shad for blacks and pinkie for cob. Hickmans good for kob. On a livey go for 8/0 at least. I am not sure of the geelbek are still around. None on sunday out of gonubie. Gulu good for them and sure the boats will be there flat out. for them go 2 hook rig, but again 8/0 at least. decent sard bait cottoned on with a whole sard hooked through the eyes below it works well for the geelbek.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:21 pm
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Yep, same competition. My boat is a 19 foot mallards swift but only have the single outboard. So the banks are out for me. Next year would like to upgrade to two outboards so that I can target a copper or two. I will make up some traces with bigger size hooks and give them a go. Also trying braid for the 1st time. Hopefully the thin diameter will be less affected by current and I will feel the bite quicker and react quicker  as there is no stretch. Damn but it is pricey. Thanks for the info.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:36 pm
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Hey Big G.

Agree with Tkei re trolling. Get onto you reef and begin working.
Your hooks seem a little light weight but that's my own opinion. If you looking for the blacks, you should go the live bait route. Also never neglect the good old flap bait.
Braid on a good old bicycle wheel is the only way for me.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Cheers
HT

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:48 pm
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Big G, Braid the only way to go for bottom fishing. Put a decent nylon leader on 2-4m to give a bit of shock absorbtion. The sensitivily for detecting bites is awsome. Not such an issue in the shallower water you will be in, but on the copper banks etc, its a must. it does help with the current as well. Yip itys pricy, but not nearly as pricy as a run to the banks and not being able to hold bottom with 1.5kgs of lead due to the current drag on the nylon.
for targeting blacks, read latest Ski boat. Good article in there by my brother and another guy.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:49 pm
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Sorry doule post

Last edited on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:49 pm by tkei

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:06 pm
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Hey Tkei, so thats your boet.

Now Dave Beattie goes way back with my side to the days of Durban Ski Boat club and others.

Small world man

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:11 pm
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I will pop past CNA and pick up a copy.

THKS

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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:51 pm
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Ja, thats the little sod. Knows his *** when it comes to bottom fish. Think he may be doing article on coppers as well.
Old dave beatie also knows his stuff. i read and studied his original articles back in 91/92 and dreamt of one day catching the big guys.

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