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Cuban Cigar
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I'm looking for a excuse to get one more compact multiplier reel to pair with my 10ft and 11ft gallie rods and 2oz to 4oz lead plus compact streamline bait like worms, prawn, whitemussel and vrottes. The choice will probably come from the following candidates : Daiwa SL20SH, Saltist BG20H, Shimano Torium 14,Trinidad 14A, Penn Fathom 15. It would be great if some of you have a couple or all of these in the above sizes, to do a unbiased comparison on their casting ability please ?

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Saltist BG 20H cast like a bomb and can't get overwinds great reel.
Also try the Penn 525 not sure if they as fast as the Saltist but not bad reels

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Ek verkies die fathom 15 leflike katrol

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They all good reels....the question is $$$$$$$$$$

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Not the SL20SH or Sealine X-SHA which has a better balanced spool and is a much faster reel.

Tune it with a Mono Mag, load it with 50lbs braid as mainline and never look back.

Trinidad 12A filled with Braid would be my choice as main reel for the application you are envisaging.

FLUKE
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Location: East London, South Africa
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Equipment: BM T53 Bronzie, PG 350/6, Assasin Heavy, BMG312 2-4, Tor30&50, ...
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If money is no object the Trini 14a is probably the pick of those reels but my money would be spent on the Saltist BG20. Load it with 40-50lb braid and you'll be smiling, well not if you get an overrun LOL and it does happen a lot easier with braid on a multiplier.

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curious...ever considered a 15/30 shimano? The torium 14 fits perfectly with my 100M exage. Lovely set up, I fish braid only for gallies and it takes a fair bit of line!

kopstamp
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15/30?

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15/30 to big for what he is after

The Saltist 20 or Tor 14 loaded with braid with well set cast control is perfect for Gallies in WC only fishing 10-50m tops.

Easy to cast the braid to 110m on the reel with no danger of overruns and consider a monomag adaptation and no overruns at all.

Monomagged a Bannax 50 and a number of Trini 20A and Saltiga 40's and they throw a long way with no threat of overwinds or even flairing

kopstamp
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Trini 16a is also a little gem for size, dont know about lasting in the conditions tho.

Cuban Cigar
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Best Catch: 19 kg Henties Westcoast Steenbra on light tackle
Favorite Fishing Spot: Pearly Beach, Struisbaai, Suiderstrand, Brandfontein, Blombos, Betties, Hangklip
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Hi guys - you all seem to have some very valid points. Sadly, finance does play a role and unless the Trinis can outcast the other reels by a serious margin, it wil be difficult to justify the heavy premium on price ? I already use the SL20SH and Torium 14 and is very happy with them, but have another little gallie stick on my wishlist, therefore the search for another reel to match. I do agree with Craig that the 1530 is too big for what I have in mind as a compact gallie reel, although I can understand your choice of it for the 'tail Grootvis. I just love my fully modded and magged one with 5 and 60z on my heavier duty 13ft cracker rod. The Saltist BG20H is the reel I have been looking into lately and if it casts on par with my other two small reels, it will be good enough. One question though - I don't own any reels without counterweighted handles - when I went to testcast a bunch of reels that I fitted magbrakes to for customers, to finetune,I found that when casting the Saltist 50 and making a aggressive move with the butt section during the cast, that the reel handle would flip over with a heavy "thump" that is very disturbing. This did not happen to any of the narrower spooled BG 35 or silver Saltist 40's that I casted during tha same session, but with all three of the 50's I tested! I can only figure that the combo of my casting stroke and the wider spool of the 50's without a handle counterweight triggered this ? Hopefully the little narrow framed BG20 won't do this ? I haven't yet made the move to braid, but is certainly interested - any specific casting braid you prefer for this ?

kopstamp
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Any thick braid, most suited would be from using it, jerry brown, last long but cheaper than simen favourite fireline.

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I have been using 0.37mm 75lbs HMP for the last 3 years on my SL30 and it's just fine and showing no signs of wear.

75lbs seems rough but I fish #2 and #2 hooks and end up breaking the hook or hook snoot when snagging and my rig is only as strong as the 0.40mm hook snoot or 0.60mm leader so I lose a hook and not my leader and all else.

Cuban Cigar
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Hell guys - thought I was working late with the 2014 wine grape harvest causing us to press late into the evenings, but I see that some of you also burn the midnight candles !
Any comments on some of the non counter-weighted handles flipping over during the cast ? What colour is the HMP braid and what length and diameter leader do you use for this type of fishing Craig ?

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HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.

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For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.

Cuban Cigar
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Strepie wrote:
For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

Cheers

Cuban Cigar
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Best Catch: 19 kg Henties Westcoast Steenbra on light tackle
Favorite Fishing Spot: Pearly Beach, Struisbaai, Suiderstrand, Brandfontein, Blombos, Betties, Hangklip
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Enigma wrote:
HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.
Hi Craig - thanks for the reply - I like the idea of 0.37mm braid for the practical side of handling it. What diameter and length of leader would you suggest for gallies and standard or wind-on ?

Cuban Cigar
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Enigma wrote:
HMP moss green or Yellow.

8 Braid 75lbs is around 0.37mm which I find behaves itself very well especially with hard casts.

8 Braid 50lbs is around 0.30mm a number of people I know use this but it's getting a bit on the thin side when sorting out a tangle.

The 8 strand braids hold up very well with casting and are so strong that by the end of a week of Gallie fishing your nylon leader will be 1-2m long and lots of hooks lost but no mainline.

Streepie and a few other guys here have been using this sort of setup for Gallies for a few years now.
Hi Craig - thanks for the reply - I like the idea of 0.37mm braid for the practical side of handling it. What diameter and length of leader would you suggest for gallies and standard or wind-on ?

dswart
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Joined: Wed Apr 11th, 2007
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Equipment: Gremlin 7+1 HMG + Saltiga 50, Gremlin 4 piece rod ...
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The best small casting reel for me is the Saltiga Surf 30. Yes it is hard to find these days. As soon as your press is done it will let you fish with it.

Value for money? As in your case SL30SH - dirt cheap at round about R800 for a new one - hands down the most underated little reel...

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Cuban Cigar wrote:
Strepie wrote:
For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

Cheers


Why without an leader CC?

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New Wholesale on SL30 is over R1000 incl VAT so if you can find it cheap now, take it.

Leader yes....

Protects from rocks and kelp

We fish 0.60-0.80mm and invariably you break part of the leader off and not your mainline

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Yes Dirk, you know how I drool about that Saltiga Surf 30 with the red spool of yours, but like the SL30SH,it is too wide for my taste on these short little rods with their thin grips and tiny triggerseats - too heavy on top of it as well. It will be the ultimate reel for that 13'6" HMG, but if I can't find a new one, I will have to choose between the Fathom 25N and Saltist BG35H narrow spool for that rod. I will surely take you and Strepie up on your offers to cast those reels after the harvest to see which I prefer on my rod ! Thanks and cheers !

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dswart wrote:
Cuban Cigar wrote:
Strepie wrote:
For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

Cheers


Why without an leader CC?
I'm not crazy of the sound and feeling of the knot going through the tiny guides of the little rods I fish, but will give it a go with 0.55 Maxima if you and Streep teach me the slickest knots.

dswart
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I fish 0.60mm to 0.80mm depending on what I fish for and where - I you do not hear the knot going through the eyes of the rod...

Yes I will gladly teach you...

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I use a 11ft exage surf with a penn fathom 15 spooled with .45 double x. Best
little combo ever. I cast up to 7oz with that rod and its almost impossible to cast an overwind!

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Hi guys,

My little setup for Gallies and Steenies is n 12ft loomis 2 piece rod with a Fin-nor ofc 16h spooled with 20 lb Suffix 832.Using 2/0 or 3/0 circle hook and 3 oz sinker.

For Blombos it work like a charm.

My 2 cents worth

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Popper9 wrote:
Hi guys,

My little setup for Gallies and Steenies is n 12ft loomis 2 piece rod with a Fin-nor ofc 16h spooled with 20 lb Suffix 832.Using 2/0 or 3/0 circle hook and 3 oz sinker.

For Blombos it work like a charm.

My 2 cents worth


Not a bad combo at all. Sold my Finnors though due to their weight.

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the 16h is n realy small reel...your one thumb covers your spool almost.Its a very strong reel which help if a cracker picks you up between the galles...Dan moet jy net vashouuuu....Cant wait for this winter

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Now you guys are really giving me a bad attack of galjoenkoors, while I will have to wait till April before I can get out of the cellar ! Sal seker maar nog een of dalk twee moet braai om my aan die lewe te hou tot dan ? LOL !!!

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One uses 1m to1.2m max as leader.

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Last edited on Wed Feb 19th, 2014 02:45 am by Walt

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Now you guys are really giving me a bad attack of galjoenkoors, while I will have to wait till April before I can get out of the cellar ! Sal seker maar nog een of dalk twee moet braai om my aan die lewe te hou tot dan ? LOL !!!

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Now you guys are really giving me a bad attack of galjoenkoors, while I will have to wait till April before I can get out of the cellar ! Sal seker maar nog een of dalk twee moet braai om my aan die lewe te hou tot dan ? LOL !!!

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Ja Oom Dirk - before this last comment, you were on the shortlist to be invited for the gallie braai, but you leave me no other choice than to remove your name from the hat from which the drawing will take place this month and you will be on probation till further notice ! LOL :: ifishin:wfish

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Well CC if you had invited me - that means my family as well. And seeing that my daughter have a big love for our national fish means you must braai all 3 of stock in the freezer. Thus meaning that I must bring my gallie and cobbie for the braai. But the call in the end is yours my friend...

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Well CC if you had invited me - that means my family as well. And seeing that my daughter have a big love for our national fish means you must braai all 3 of stock in the freezer. Thus meaning that I must bring my gallie and cobbie for the braai. But the call in the end is yours my friend...

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Hi Dirk - the harvest is going great but hectic after the heatwave of the weekend. Maybe if I can convince you to also stalk the gallies in the little hidden holes with a small rod and reel, (those holes that most guys cast right over the top of )we might get more of the 50cm plus models that will feed more than one gallie eater at a time ? Let's make a deal - you bring a small (size 20 Daiwa/Penn 15/Shimano 14)reel and 10 to 11ft rod and I will switch to braid on the same basis - how do you like that for a deal and everyone wins ? :wfish

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Let's make a deal - you bring a small (size 20 Daiwa/Penn 15/Shimano 14)reel and 10 to 11ft rod and I will switch to braid on the same basis - how do you like that for a deal and everyone wins ? :wfish

My dedicated gallie rods are:
1 Pentagon Baby 12 foot - paired with a SL30SH with Fireline 30lbs.
2 Purglass 14.6 foot stroke 2 shortened to a 13.6 - paired with a SL30SH with Fireline 30LBS.
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4 Aerocast 10 foot paired with a Sustain 5 000 with 30 lbs powerpro

Sooooo there is enough little rods

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Die eerste en die laaste ene sal werk - los maar die ander by die huis - sien jou op de klippe !

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Die eerste en die laaste ene sal werk - los maar die ander by die huis - sien jou op de klippe !

Jy sal nog sien as jy saam Blombos toe kom soms het jy die langer stok nodig...

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The only rod missing from this collection is one rod my friend Wilhelm owns.

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The only rod missing from this collection is one rod my friend Wilhelm owns. Are you referring to the little custom 11 footer or that long, thin, stiff HMG thing that unlike single malt, I don't like "on the rocks" ? I'll use my light cracker stick if I need something longer for your side of Blombos, although the 11footer works perfectly on the side of Blombos that I'm familiar with. The last time I fished it, I tagged and released a bunch of nice galjoen as the trip got postponed and ended up on the weekend just after the gallie season closed and it was strictly "window shopping" !

Can't wait for gallie-time !

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Nope talking about your fathers rod Out of bounds boet, almost like fishing siffie for cracker these days ! I will let you cast it with 4oz and either the Torium 14 or SL20SH on it, but if it gives you sleepless nights after that, the damage is for your account. Remember that Enigma said that you can get a very similar feeling and power modern blank from Purglas - maybe he can build you one so that you can really enjoy the feel of such a compact little rod, but you just have to fit one of those small diameter narrowspool reels on it, to experience it at its best !:fishn

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But I am mos in your testament just for the rod?

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In theory yes, but I'm planning to outlive all you youngsters, so Enigma may be in for some business still while you are waiting for me to kick the bucket ! Remember the blank id - 300/3/2-piece built to 11 ft !!!

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In theory yes, but I'm planning to outlive all you youngsters, so Enigma may be in for some business still while you are waiting for me to kick the bucket ! Remember the blank id - 300/3/2-piece built to 11 ft !!!

I still have plans for you - we are going to fish the reefs the coming season so please make sure that your testament is up to date...

We still must make a turn at Quiver !!!

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Reefs and swimming with my rods & reels - Aikona ! Quiver - Yebo !

Aai hoekom sukkel ek vandag weer so?

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For me nothing comes close to the Fathom15. I have a SL30 as well, casts well but the Fathom is still king.

I use either Sufix 832 or Fireline ranging from 50lbs to 80lb. Like I told you the other night once you are hooked on catching gallies with braid you will never look back.
Hallo Streep - yes you and Dirk are the culprits that planted the braid "seed" that is threatening to germinate ! I'll send you a email with a few questions regarding the use of braid without a leader, as I do not want to sabotage the reel thread I started here and that topic has been discussed to some length recently - still leaves me with some unanswered questions though....

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Why without an leader CC?
I'm not crazy of the sound and feeling of the knot going through the tiny guides of the little rods I fish, but will give it a go with 0.55 Maxima if you and Streep teach me the slickest knots.


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If planning on fishing gallies or the likes, which it seems you want, i wouldnt bother with a leader either. Straight braid. I have straight braid to a swivel, i used the same swivels for years! I only change them once they start to bend or wear out. Rather just loose your hook trace than an entire length of leader. For gallies its awesome, feeling even the sand washing around the line, and not too mention the brute force and impact of the bite. Every couple of years, just change the line around. It cuts through kelp and mussels no problem. You seldom get stuck. The sinker line breaks easily just from the impact of the braid. My 100M with T14 and braid , is really a good set up. Im just looking for a lighter rod though.

For the Cape its perfect, else where im not sure, but shouldnt be any different.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

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I stitch it with a needle most times. I also sometimes use a knot, not sure of the name, will try and find a diagram somewhere, its far easier to see than explain.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

The trini 16A is an absolute beast of a small reel. I have actually never casted a better reel and I have all the sizes. T14 doesnt compare, but for light tackle rock and surf it is fine.
after winning the reel in a raffle, i took it to strandfontein for its first mission. Armed with freshly netted sardine, I unfortunately hooked about 4-5 bronzies on the TN16A and poseidon light. It handled very very well, however the fight did not last long as I was going to get spooled so straight sticked and waited for line to part.

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I stitch it with a needle most times. I also sometimes use a knot, not sure of the name, will try and find a diagram somewhere, its far easier to see than explain.


Its a basic blood knot with an overhand knot in the end, the knot pulls up to the tag end knot and locks. I have never had it fail. I forgot what the name of the knot was, its a blood knot(the easiest), brain not working today.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

Meant too also add, do not go with suffix braid. use fireline or spiderwire. suffix doesnt hold knots well and seems to deteriorate faster. Dont forget the section of monofilament on the reel first before loading braid. very essential.you probably know this already though.

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Hi Grootvis - I see you have the narrowspool Trini 16A - how do you compare its casting with that of your Torium 14 ? Although I think you use it on the Poseidon HMG Lite and the Tor14 on the 100 M ? I will definately try the braid on my small reels with and without leader this season to see for myself.

Meant too also add, do not go with suffix braid. use fireline or spiderwire. suffix doesnt hold knots well and seems to deteriorate faster. Dont forget the section of monofilament on the reel first before loading braid. very essential.you probably know this already though.
how much of what diameter nylon on spool of Torium 14 before filling with fireline ? Any preferance or difference in successrate when using greyt natural vs bright fluerescent braid ?

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I have found that replacing the mono on the bottom with a double layer of insulation tape prevents any slippage and you then have braid top to bottom.

Personally prefer fluorescent braid for vis and I fish full length leader tied with Bob Sands knot.

Use good quality line for leader, usually Sugoi Fluoro and I use the same principle of hook and sinker snoots breaking before the leader or mainline and I seldom if ever have to retie a leader in a session.

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I am in the same predikament as CC.

I want to get me a smaller reel and n lighter stick for the gallies, the reel i want to be able to use on the reefs aswell in the summer months now the reels that im thinking of is the 15/30 or the 20/40 or perhaps a sl30?

I cant justify spending more than a R1000 for a reel that is going to work hard hence the 2 shimano options, i am just a bit nervous that the 15/30 might not take enough line and that the 20/40 is going to be to big!?

And the the rod is a headache on its own, i fish purglass and blue marlin 1 piece rods and i want to stay with the 1 piece idea, if i had to close my eyes and and i will go for a 11ft /1 or /2 but now a friend of mine has confused my thinking very much after he mentioned a couple of other option for the rod.

I dont mind spending more on the rod but now the question is what rod perhaps u guys could give an option or suggestions?

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Although a couple of guys are using a 15/30 on the shorter rods - it is to heavy and will not balance a lighter rod. Plus the fact that ideally the 15/30 only start preforming with a 5 ounce sinker and up. Yes you can through lighter sinkers on a 12 foot rod for instance but you will not get the distance as with a 15/30 and a longer rod. Especially if you mag the reel.

My suggestion will be in your budged range a SL30SH - just wash it after each outing and service the bearing reguarly. Takes enough line...

What rod where you thinking of getting?

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I have found that replacing the mono on the bottom with a double layer of insulation tape prevents any slippage and you then have braid top to bottom.

Personally prefer fluorescent braid for vis and I fish full length leader tied with Bob Sands knot.

Use good quality line for leader, usually Sugoi Fluoro and I use the same principle of hook and sinker snoots breaking before the leader or mainline and I seldom if ever have to retie a leader in a session.
Makes good sense with one less knot - are you happy that it will provide enough cussioning against possible compression of the spool, caused by just cranking against a heavy load instead of pumping and then cranking, on light reels like the SL20/30SH with synthetic spools or the Torium 14 and Saltist BG20H with metal spools, or is this only the case with heavy reels and sharkfishing where I have seen spools collapse ?

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dswart wrote: Although a couple of guys are using a 15/30 on the shorter rods - it is to heavy and will not balance a lighter rod. Plus the fact that ideally the 15/30 only start preforming with a 5 ounce sinker and up. Yes you can through lighter sinkers on a 12 foot rod for instance but you will not get the distance as with a 15/30 and a longer rod. Especially if you mag the reel.

My suggestion will be in your budged range a SL30SH - just wash it after each outing and service the bearing reguarly. Takes enough line...

What rod where you thinking of getting?


My 1st choice without any hesitation wil be a Purglas 12ft /1 or /2 but James made my kop somer deurmekaar with a couple of other options he gave me the other night, he has a BM Garrick and it is a very nice little rod, but now the thing is i wanna have it custom made and in a 1 piece format so i dont see the use of buying a rod and then customising it after i have bought it!

Do u think the sl 30 would handle nicely on the reefs?

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Do u think the sl 30 would handle nicely on the reefs?


Look the sl30sh has more bearings than the 15/30. Thus the reason for me saying that you must take care of the reel. Although my sl30sh have been swimming a couple of times before I had it serviced. But I take care of my reel afterwards i.e. I leave it in a bucket of luke warm water for and hour or two after each session and give the reel a oil on the bearings. And this seems to work. No bearing ever made like sea water.

On the rods side:
1. A stroke 1 or 2 purglass is an excellent choice because of the thicker walls of the blank. Thus taking the knocks of the reefs a bit better.
2. I have played with Enigma's little Oval DC a couple of times and if he had the blanks when I spoken to him I most probably had one of these rods.
3. Blue Marlin has a 12.6 rappie rod - excellent. I have played with this rod as well a couple of times.
4. The proper Assassin Baby 12.6 is also a good little rod.
5. Nothing can beat the Shimano Exhage 11 foot.
6. The old Loomis and Franklin 12.6 two peace rod is also very nice.

Number 2 to 6 is all three piece rods. Maybe Enigma can build you an Oval DC oval - do not know if he has the one piece blanks though...

Nothing wrong with a three piece rods...

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Correction Nr 2,4,5 and 6 are 2 piece rods not sure about nr 3 but I suspect a 2 piece as well.

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I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish

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I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish

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Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight.

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I've been fishing straight 30m of 75lbs hmp on my monomag sl30 for 3 years now. Use it for plugging, scratching and catfishes so it works hard and till now no problems with the spools and I fish up to 6oz and bait on the reel.

I have carbontex washers in the reel but even so a month of fishing 2-4oz with 0.40mm hook snoots you wouldn't even get near the pressure and forces you would be reaching with 50lbs tackle on a 130kg Bronzie for 30 minutes.

Even a fight with a decent crackers short range man on fish action so the winds under pressure won't be massive in number.

The small slosh reels also have nowhere near the torque of for example a 30A so you would have to pump a big fish and not crank a big fish
Thanks Craig, that puts the compression matter to rest as expexted - I just didn't want to take any expensive chances as the use of braid is unchartered territory for me !

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Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight. Hi Stinkmossel - I often fish the stretch of beach between Suiderstrand and Brandfontein on foot and mostly use my little 110H with either SL20SH ot Torium 14 and 4oz plus bait, but from time to time, I find really nice working water just outside the comfort range of the 110H (over 130 meters for me) and for those occasions, I carry my Poseidon 13"6' 3-piece along just in its bag stuck into my backpack. It is extremely lightweigt, but with the few 5oz sinkers I carry for just this application, it is a very good longrange caster as long as the little gallie reel can keep up and you keep the bait compact an even clip it for extra streamling if needed. I used to carry my SL30SH along as well and the swopped rod and reel around( I normally use the Poseidon/ SL30SH/5oz fot steenies), but lately - try to pack lighter for the long walk and do not pack the larger reel as in the past. So this is my reason for making sure that the next compact little gallie reel I get, is also up to the task of doing this double duty that my Torium 14 and SL20SH is currently doing.I do the same thing, walking along the coast from Odendalspunt (Blombos) down the beach.

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Now for a complete curve ball- if enigma still has them, the vmax rod i have will do all the above with ease, and so far it has take all the knocks i have had. Custom it will be less than the blanks of the others?

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Why do you want a good casting reel when you will be using it for gallies? In my honest opinion, the sl30 is superior and very tough for its size. And it can get wet and perform perfectly. Pricing is spot on and is lightweight. Hi Stinkmossel - I often fish the stretch of beach between Suiderstrand and Brandfontein on foot and mostly use my little 110H with either SL20SH ot Torium 14 and 4oz plus bait, but from time to time, I find really nice working water just outside the comfort range of the 110H (over 130 meters for me) and for those occasions, I carry my Poseidon 13"6' 3-piece along just in its bag stuck into my backpack. It is extremely lightweigt, but with the few 5oz sinkers I carry for just this application, it is a very good longrange caster as long as the little gallie reel can keep up and you keep the bait compact an even clip it for extra streamling if needed. I used to carry my SL30SH along as well and the swopped rod and reel around( I normally use the Poseidon/ SL30SH/5oz fot steenies), but lately - try to pack lighter for the long walk and do not pack the larger reel as in the past. So this is my reason for making sure that the next compact little gallie reel I get, is also up to the task of doing this double duty that my Torium 14 and SL20SH is currently doing.I do the same thing, walking along the coast from Odendalspunt (Blombos) down the beach.



In that case, im using the Penn squall 25.. Its the beat casting/ lightweight reel i have ever used! Not to fond of swimming though.... Pricing is great. 130m is a piece of cake

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Howsit Guys,

I am planning to scratch the gullys and cast over rocky reefs with :

Saltist BG20H and Exage 100M ...2-3oz and bait
Saltist BG30H and Exage 110H....3-4oz and bait

Am i on the right track in regards with rod and reel matching ?......
with those sinker weights?

Just to add .....i am using mono line.

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My setup is Exage 110H with either Tor14 or the old gold Trini 14.....one loaded with HMP 8 - 75 lbs the other with Sufix 832 80 lbs.........I have the X30SHA with the Sufix 832, which also works a treat on the Exage 110H. Both reels have Mag-it so I can open my shoulders from time to time.
I also use a Exage 110H which I have had custom extended by 1 foot.

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Hi Derash !
I prefer the narrower Daiwa 20 size#, as long as you stick to thinner diam nylon or preferably braid(in my case)...so that the line column, does not shrink too much on a long cast, effectively bringing down your actual inches per handle crank, retrieve.

I find it easier to spool the line neatly on a narrow spool, when cranking like crazy, to get terminal tackle to clear the refs and bricks.

The narrow spooled reels, also cast the lightest sinker weights better, as most of the weight of the spool, is in the core part and not the flanges, so a narrower spool. weighs substantially less than the same spool in wider format .... thus having lower start-up inertia,making spinning up the light spool easier with light sinker weights .... lighter spools also don't overspin so easily and thus easier to control against overwinds !

On a thin gripped rod like 100M and 110H, I prefer tha balance and look of the narrower reel.

My 5 cents worth ...
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Excellent discussion guys.....

I found one of those Pentagon Lights and paired it with a Surf 30, (which cannot be magged as per CC, who suggested to fit double break blocks), however one set standard is fitted.
The rod and reel balance well.
My migration to braid by suggestions from Enigma using that yellow 75lb HMP sounds like a good idea _seal1_

The bothersome issue is the tip eye, and even a Bob sands passes with a noise. My option to go with Grootvis se suggestion.....and fish it straight to swivel is an option not yet considered. Thanks Don ;)

Second opsie....get that oogie ge~change!!

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Good discussion .

If you have a chance , get one of these .

https://www.seigler.fish/products/sm?variant=33116360846


_ This IS the best casting light multiplier !!!

- unfortunately not available in SA.

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I started as a child with a spinning reel, by 11 wanted desperately to use a multiplier.
By 12 had an Ambassadeur 8000C that I still have.
From there "regressed" to fixed spool reels.
Then recently took an interest in using smaller high performance multipliers along the size range of a SL20.
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Holy **** can they cast.
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I managed a couple of 182m casts.
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The bothersome issue is the tip eye, and even a Bob sands passes with a noise. My option to go with Grootvis se suggestion.....and fish it straight to swivel is an option not yet considered.


Psy,

What sort of issues are you having with the tip eye?
I have no noise or clunking with .35mm mono to .70mm mono leaders through a size 8 tip top.

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T-H

I will need to check the eye number size (will that be stamped on it?) the insert is rather thickish,they are all Fuji as the rod was built by Gremlins, so no nonsense fitted....however even a single Bob Sands labours at the tip.....so that I am forced to fish a short mono/braid leader keeping it clear of the tip for casting.

My route will/might be to get the eye changed out :?

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Light blue-grey ring insert?
Size is not stamped...
Dia is to the OUTSIDE of the insert.
If the guide is Hardloy as I suspect (per attached image) they are quite chunky relative to ID.
Bob Sands braid to mono leader or braid to braid?
What dia mono leader?

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Edited the previous post,

.....mono .4 to 75lb HMP leader.

Tip eye is relatively (chunky) thick,...yes, looks like the LLT/PLT types (am not sure)....will have to check when I'm back home.

Thanks for the TIP

;)

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Alu Oxidw ie BNOG or Hardloy ie BNLG are not recommended for fishing braid as mainline.

Look to change at leat your tip Guide to an MNAT (Anti Tangle Alconite tip) Will make a huge change in smoothness of cast and retrieve of braided mainlines

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This one? Fuji MNAT Alconite tip top Bright finish

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That's the one.
I am intrigued by your line & leader setup though
.40 mono to a #75 braid leader?
Any reason you don't just use straight braid?

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As mentioned I intend to load the surf 30 with braid, the mono is new and I don’t want to waste it yet. I’m a little perturbed by the surf 30’s wider spool though, it may cause issues, have almost lost a thumbnail before on the same reel.

;)

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Put the mono on an old empty line spool so you don't just throw it away.
Mag the reel and you should be able to keep your thumb away from the spool until the sinker hits the water.

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;)
Cuban cigar has already checked. The reel is too small to mag he says.
I have replaced the brake blocks already, but that Surf 30 is a demon when casting I’m keen to give it a go anyhow

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That's a pity.

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Psy wrote:
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Cuban cigar has already checked. The reel is too small to mag he says.
I have replaced the brake blocks already, but that Surf 30 is a demon when casting I’m keen to give it a go anyhow

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If you don't mind a nobby Magnetic Cast Control System protruding from the sideplate, you could possibly go that route ?

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Put a thicker grease in the bearings.

Many top tournament casters use this method to control speed.

What about upgrading brake blocks to slightly bigger blocks?

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Just for clarity sake ....

It's not that the reel is too small as such, as We fit the MAG-IT Magnetic Cast Control System INSIDE tiny reels, such as the Penn Fathom FTH 10/12/15 ... in fact, I just completed another little FTH12, as I type this !

The Saltiga Surf 30, has a very unconventional LH sideplate, as far as the machining of the inside and it's design goes, making it unpractical to fit the magplate on that side and extremely little clearance, between the spool and the RH side of the frame... to the point that there is not enough clearance for a 0.9mm magplate and 1mm thick magnets !

Further options:

1. External screw-type MCCS
2. Thicker oil or grease in the bearings
3. Heavier or extra break blocks

Keep us posted !

Cheers !

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My vote is for the knobby / screw in type.
Oil viscosity changes with temperature and gets thrown out of bearings, braking effect is not consistent and changes..

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Problem is that the sleep later on these reels are angular and the fitting won't be as neat as the one you put on my Abu 6500

By the way. My 1973 Abu that you cleaned out and fitted the knobby to..... casts like a little monster. I average 147m with a 4oz and a bait and have yet to cast a bunch.

To be fair I still had one brake block in.

Not bad if you consider it's a reel that is 100% original (except the knobby) bearings
Still casting out to 170m with 6oz and it's 44 years old and in it,s original state.

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Glad you like it!!
For a 44 year old reel it really is remarkable how well it casts.
Doesn't even have inboard spool bearings..

Flat sided reels are easier to mono-mag, but I recently did conversions to two dome-sided Ambassadeurs.

Its a bit of a fiddle and faff to fit, but it works very well.
I actually added an additional magnet to the 5600 reel:
Fully wound in less than a second of spin time.
Fully wound out about a minute and a half (reel still has the plastic clicker cog inside that acts like an air brake, will replace with a proper speed bush in the future)

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Psy wrote: This one? Fuji MNAT Alconite tip top Bright finish



Just checked the tip eye, it has a light bright blue insert, not a thick insert as thought! Streamlined the FG ~ seems good to go, will give it a whirl to check.


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I love my 10ft loomis shockwave 3oz with a bg30 gold spinning old school, with the torium 14 I need bigger oz's

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Exage 100M old model and BG20H ::tight:

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demon wrote:
I love my 10ft loomis shockwave 3oz with a bg30 gold old school, with the torium 14 I need bigger oz's

I think you just need new bearings in the 14. The 14 generally spins up faster than the BG

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I feel like the torium 14 is a 4oz reel...or more